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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

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    Hope this setup will be a long lasting on for you

    everything looks great from what i see

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    Carry on the good work, nice to see new equipment too.
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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    thanks, improving substrate system..


    bamboo charcoal bits spreaded across the soil.. will be press into the soil 1 by 1.


    left over Wondergro root tab!


    after adding another 2kg soil and then spreaded it on top of the sand again... then pushed it into the substrate.


    my things ordered from mizuworld will come tomorrow. more updates will then be revealed.

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    Wow, deep substrate. You planning on having any water in there come the end result ha.
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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    theres a thick slope at the back and middle already maybe due to angle of photo cant really see the slope.. but slope isn't really important for this scape as i'll be using stem plants for depths.. water of course! but not now yet.. waiting for my driftwood to arrive and plants too. scaping of wood SHOULD start tomorrow. im so excited!

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    Air stone will be highly ineffective as a diffuser for CO2 because CO2 molecules are smaller than air molecules. As such, your CO2 won't be able to diffuse completely. You can always get a cheap CO2 diffuser though, mine was only S$2.50. Heh.

    What is the use of bamboo charcoal in the substrate? Nice to read your thread, always learn new stuffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeIceGreen View Post
    You can always get a cheap CO2 diffuser though, mine was only S$2.50. Heh.
    Mine are $4.50

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    JIG, yea i asked chan about it too, but he told me this is FOC.. so no choice had to take it.. of course im not using it.. haha..

    as for the charcoal bamboos..
    discussion in my AF thread..
    http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...=362054&page=3

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    No hardscape?

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    hardscape picture should be posted tomorrow.

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    I would have to add that placing chacoal in the substrate makes little sense. Let me explain why.

    For your chacoal to encourage the growth of aerobic microorganisms which prevents a substrate from getting stagnant, it has to be placed at the very bottom. Placing it at the bottom and not at the midpoint mark will ensure effective breakdown of organic waste and intake of these by the plant roots. Placing your chacoal in the middle will also hinder flora root growth and may affect its health.

    Also, to create a highly effective aerobic microorganisms trap, it is best to use smaller sized "substrate". This "substrate", for example ADA Powersand, has to be of small grain sized as flora roots do grow down to it.

    Chacoal (passive absorption) or activated carbon (active absorption) are both great chemical filters and should be placed in the filter not the substrate.

    Placement in the filter will ensure maximum exposure to the water column and makes full use of its chemical filtration properties. This will also enable you to change your when their absorption properties have run out although it is now accepted practice to continue to leave it in the filter to act as a biological media.

    However in my point of view, I would rather use a dedicated biological media like ADA Bio Rio or Eheim Substrat Pro which would ensure maximum filtration delivery which is important as our filtration media space is somewhat limited.

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    hardscape picture should be posted tomorrow.
    Looking forward to it.

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    I am seeing alot of Wondergro Root used They will go wasted. As root tabs nutrients will slowly desolved into the water column if it is not used by the plants. I would prefer to use base ferts which releases the nutrients slower.

    You should make your front thinner, by pushing the substrates to the back. I realised that having 1:2 or 1:3 , front:back ratio is not enough to create the sloping effect. Both my tanks have 1:3 ratio, now they look flat

    Good luck with your scape

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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeIceGreen View Post
    I would have to add that placing chacoal in the substrate makes little sense. Let me explain why.

    For your chacoal to encourage the growth of aerobic microorganisms which prevents a substrate from getting stagnant, it has to be placed at the very bottom. Placing it at the bottom and not at the midpoint mark will ensure effective breakdown of organic waste and intake of these by the plant roots. Placing your chacoal in the middle will also hinder flora root growth and may affect its health.

    Also, to create a highly effective aerobic microorganisms trap, it is best to use smaller sized "substrate". This "substrate", for example ADA Powersand, has to be of small grain sized as flora roots do grow down to it.

    Chacoal (passive absorption) or activated carbon (active absorption) are both great chemical filters and should be placed in the filter not the substrate.

    Placement in the filter will ensure maximum exposure to the water column and makes full use of its chemical filtration properties. This will also enable you to change your when their absorption properties have run out although it is now accepted practice to continue to leave it in the filter to act as a biological media.

    However in my point of view, I would rather use a dedicated biological media like ADA Bio Rio or Eheim Substrat Pro which would ensure maximum filtration delivery which is important as our filtration media space is somewhat limited.

    Looking forward to it.
    I've to agree with you! Those charcoal are like sharp knife, hurting the roots growing, is this an Orchid plant tank? Those charcoal is really bad for planted tank setup. This is the first time i see such setup, soil first followed by charcoal, root tab and so on. Reversing setup?

    Looking forward to it.

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionZ View Post

    left over Wondergro root tab!


    after adding another 2kg soil and then spreaded it on top of the sand again... then pushed it into the substrate.

    Keeping algae? ...

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    Well having heard 2 set of theory on the use of charcoal... I would look forward to see how this tank take shape in 3-6 months time. To me both side of the story do have points to note but at the end, the result will tell... Maybe who knows if this tank turns out beautiful I may also follow this method in future.
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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    hi guys, thanks for all your valueable comments, acctually i wanted the charcoal to be at the bottom but forgot about it and end up pouring the soil in first, will do some changes.. will update soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionZ View Post
    hi guys, thanks for all your valueable comments, acctually i wanted the charcoal to be at the bottom but forgot about it and end up pouring the soil in first, will do some changes.. will update soon.
    Crush the charcoal into much smaller pieces if you decide to place them at the bottom.
    But no matter if its charcoal or root tab, use them sparingly! You do not want an algae bloom when your charcoal starts releasing nutrients and your root tab providing extra.

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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    either way you probably wont be able to measure the different I do not think it will give you a huge improvement nor kill your flora and fauna.

    For example, ADA bamboo charcoal will act as biological filtration over time, due to its porosity. Thus the same may true if you put it on the base, it will absorb ammonia, which attract BB to colonize. This is just an idea, I do not have document or data to support it . But I bet you wont see much different, too many variable to make a conclusion.

    By the way, if not mistaken terrestrial planting also using charcoal to add carbon, any one can confirm this?
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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    What I found on the internet, not sure how true, maybe just a myth

    1) Bamboo charcoal is used for soil improvement in agriculture, pot plant compost, growth promoting agents of crop plants, raise the survival rate of plants in nursery planting, raise the ratio of well-formed plants in nurseries, and increase soil aeration to benefit the respiration of plant roods, a weapon for increasing agriculture and livestock production yield.

    2) Bamboo charcoal releases natural minerals into water, keeping your flowers and fish healthy. Also, the charcoal purifies water, saving your time to take care of your aquarium. After using charcoal, break it into pieces and sprinkle on your garden or blend into soil. Plants will grow faster and stronger.

    3) Growth promoting of tea trees by putting Bamboo Charcoal in Soil, research by Takehiko Hoshi, department of Biological Science and Technology.... just click the link http://www.fb.u-tokai.ac.jp/WWW/hoshi/cha/paper.pdf. It is 2 years study (1998 to 2000), I don't think my scape will last that long probably re-scape withing 6 months
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    Re: EvolutionZ's new 2ft planted tank journal.

    did some changes, took out all the soil, and the charcoal are at the bottom now.

    place in the soil and create a more obvious slope... wondergro fert took them out too, decided to place them in when near the plants after the plants is planted in..

    played around with the 4 ADA wood i purchase.. but im waiting for a S size branch wood to be a base(in the middle) and it should come on monday.. i'll be getting some granite rocks too..

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