Your Favourite Apistogramma!

[stormhawk]

Many comments on genetics and such which anyone who wants to do some serious breeding project must understand.

Thats the reason always collect at least 2-3 pairs of the same fish (wild-caughts) if you really want to talk about breeding for line and quality. I have read that the minimum to maintain the line is at least 6 pairs.

You can do this alternatively, by acquiring new fish (wild) of the same strain/species to be spawned to the subsequent offspring from your original pair. It is not necessary to maintain multiple tanks for several pairs, when you can do this as and when required.

To be honest, you can easily group spawn them, as they would in the wild. Multiple pairs in say a 2 ft or 3 ft tank that will be spawning at any random moment. This will prevent any possible inbreeding since the resulting fry would be from different parents. Of course in such a situation, the males would usually have ragged fins from all the fighting. Likewise with the females. In confined spaces they tend not to fight as much due to population densities. The DATZ book states this regarding population density in the wild.

[genes]

Yup stormhawk as stated in combi 1 and 5 from my previous post.

Never tried group spawning before. But 2 pairs in a 3ft was a suicidal attempt. Bare in mind my tank was very heavily planted that time with many line of sights broken by woods and plant growth. The weaker male would be whacked out by the alpha. Ouch if your pair cost you more then 100bucks. My recommendation is still to spawn them in individual pairs to prevent unecessary losses when your fishes are so costly.

[stormhawk]

2 pairs might be tough for a 3 footer. They have a territorial zone that usually overlaps in such tanks and when they meet they will fight. I'm thinking more along the lines of 5-6 pairs in a tank that size, with adequate plant cover and possible spawning sites. I think those folks in the US go by that method in cases where they have no space for holding multiple pairs in separate tanks.

I've been to benetay's house before, and in his 6 footer I remember seeing some Ap. sp. "Mamore Red?" all in a group swimming about. The sheer size and plant cover was enough to allow them to live in peace.

Though you have a point on keeping them separate due to the cost of the pairs. But from seeing how Scope places his apistos in a community setting in a small space, it is workable, except the pairs won't spawn in such a setup with so many fish.

[marle]

Was prancing around the web and chanced upon the picture of this pretty Breitbinden specimen and other species on a Japanese blog.

http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9112402201.jpg

Apistogramma rositae
http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9112315441.jpg

http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9062002432.jpg
Id please?

Source:
http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/41130/blog/blog.cgi/c1/

[joopsg]

Was prancing around the web and chanced upon the picture of this pretty Breitbinden specimen and other species on a Japanese blog.

http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9112402201.jpg

Apistogramma rositae
http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9112315441.jpg

http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/blog/im...9062002432.jpg
Id please?

Source:
http://bbs10.as.wakwak.ne.jp/41130/blog/blog.cgi/c1/

It may be Jura

[marle]

after a period of hiatus from apistogramma, heres my 4 months old setup..

Fishes include Apisto. Barlowi, Apisto. Elizabethae(very %#^! hard to find nowadays, many thanks to Bro Bernie and Jitticus), and Discrossus Maculatus.

My goal is to breed the apistos i currently have. Honestly, i suck at breeding apistos because whenever there are fries, i tend to feed them the wrong type of food(Eg. tetrabits, hoping the mum will chew and feed them the remnants). I really can't imagine having to raise BBS daily, so i have equipped myself with decap BBS and baby plankton in a bottle.

Additionally, i used to use HOF, canister.. actually realize no need. Now, i use airpump (one air pump channel 3 tanks, damn good plus fries born not scared get sucked in).

Heres the setup:

5 Tier Rack


Conquer 2 Tier First


A secret weapon.. FIAGRA! for amazon fishes.


More pictures of fishes later..

[Aquanoob]

Marle, you got the five tier stand at Giant is it? I am also getting the smaller version for my fish tanks. Each tier of your stand can withstand 100 kg if I never see wrongly.

[Apistoinka]

Seems like Apisto fever back again... Well anyone know where I can I get Apisto agassizzii???

[joopsg]

after a period of hiatus from apistogramma, heres my 4 months old setup..

Fishes include Apisto. Barlowi, Apisto. Elizabethae(very %#^! hard to find nowadays, many thanks to Bro Bernie and Jitticus), and Discrossus Maculatus.

My goal is to breed the apistos i currently have. Honestly, i suck at breeding apistos because whenever there are fries, i tend to feed them the wrong type of food(Eg. tetrabits, hoping the mum will chew and feed them the remnants). I really can't imagine having to raise BBS daily, so i have equipped myself with decap BBS and baby plankton in a bottle.

Additionally, i used to use HOF, canister.. actually realize no need. Now, i use airpump (one air pump channel 3 tanks, damn good plus fries born not scared get sucked in).

Heres the setup:

5 Tier Rack


Conquer 2 Tier First


A secret weapon.. FIAGRA! for amazon fishes.


More pictures of fishes later..

I previously using ADA Vitamix with Dennerle S7, Apistogramma spawn every 2 weeks.
Maybe coming back soon if possible. Planning just keep 1 unit of 1.5ft cube.
Anybody with good specimen who wish to let go let me know first..
I. Adoketa, Breitbinden, Elizabethae, Inka (Baeschi) or Barlowi.

[sen_jie]

i believe afew weeks down the road Bernie may have some Barlowi available. CHeck with him

As for Inka, do check with lianho from JXZ LFS. He have stock for that.

[marle]

Marle, you got the five tier stand at Giant is it? I am also getting the smaller version for my fish tanks. Each tier of your stand can withstand 100 kg if I never see wrongly.

Yes! $70 for 5 tier. 100kg each tier.

Seems like Apisto fever back again... Well anyone know where I can I get Apisto agassizzii???

C328?

I previously using ADA Vitamix with Dennerle S7, Apistogramma spawn every 2 weeks.
Maybe coming back soon if possible. Planning just keep 1 unit of 1.5ft cube.
Anybody with good specimen who wish to let go let me know first..
I. Adoketa, Breitbinden, Elizabethae, Inka (Baeschi) or Barlowi.

Nice to see you itching to come back joopsg. ADA Vitamix with Dennerle S7, wow, that sounds like a deadly combo.

Nowadays I see I.Adoketa very frequently in LFS, maybe the overseas breeders has been mass breeding them. C328 was selling them for $95 a juvenile adult pair. Maybe can order from c328's uncle. If not JZX has a few juveniles right now, in particular, one which is very nicely coloured up.

i believe afew weeks down the road Bernie may have some Barlowi available. CHeck with him

As for Inka, do check with lianho from JXZ LFS. He have stock for that.

The previous batch of Inka by JZX were amazing, big some more. but the males like to jump. bought 2 males jumped 2 males. Maybe tank too small.

[joopsg]

Marle, i keep all apistogramma. Only 1 panduro male jumped.
I think it is important to provide dark water with driftwood.
My dither fishes are 3 pencils and 1 otos.
Lighting with stand.
Plants Java Moss and Hornwort....

[marle]

Marle, i keep all apistogramma. Only 1 panduro male jumped.
I think it is important to provide dark water with driftwood.
My dither fishes are 3 pencils and 1 otos.
Lighting with stand.
Plants Java Moss and Hornwort....

thats a good tip!

[sen_jie]

totally agree on the part on light light and tons of DW for hiding. My apisto refuse to come out the moment i switch on my light. Not to mentioned tat there are LED lights which are only 1 watts. boo boo!

[Jitticus]

Photos stolen from a friend's facebook album.



I IDed this to be apistogramma sp. twin based on the female's coloration.

[marle]

Photos stolen from a friend's facebook album.

I IDed this to be apistogramma sp. twin based on the female's coloration.

Always wanted to visit your "museum", but its quite far..

The 2nd picture looks a little like Ap.Oregon.

[marle]

the sponge design not very good. Bubbles quite ineffective as it comes out only at the top.




D.Maculatus & Elizabethae. Growth rate for maculatus far exceeds eliz. Fat and hungry all the time.


guess who

[apisto31]

wooo.. excellent fins for your maulbruter. The guy peeping is probably the one with the "biggest head".

[barmby]

That's a maulbruter?! It is nice. de ja vu again... any wilhelmi...LOL

[marle]

I bought them as Ap. Barlowi but i do have doubts about them. Im suspecting mine might not be barlowi? Somehow, the female doesnt really look like a barlowi female to me. They are definitely a pair though, as they had fries before.