heater problem ...

[tranquillizer]

jus bought a Ocean Free heater today and i put the temp to 28 degree ... and the on button went off after a while and the temp stay at 28 degree izzit when the heater heat the water to the desire temp it will stop automatically ? i wanna cure my white spot on my fish ... wad temp is recommended ... now tank temp is 30 degree and will it affect my plants such as riccia , java moss and christmas moss ?

[theodore]

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On 3/17/2003 10:01:50 PM

jus bought a Ocean Free heater today and i put the temp to 28 degree ... and the on button went off after a while and the temp stay at 28 degree izzit when the heater heat the water to the desire temp it will stop automatically ? i wanna cure my white spot on my fish ... wad temp is recommended ... now tank temp is 30 degree and will it affect my plants such as riccia , java moss and christmas moss ?
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Dun worry too much - My xmas moss and riccia was fine when i subjected them to 29-30deg 10 hrs a day for 2 weeks (strong lights and absence of DIY fans back then) ... Hope ur fishes will recover soon ...

[budak]

why waste $$$$ on a heater? When the books say raise temp to whack ich, they are speaking from a temperate climate's perspective, so the increase is from 25-26 to 28-30. I find that temp doesn't have any effect on ich here. Best is dose salt and do regular water changes.... look around the old posts in the disease section for the dosage and more advice.

[tranquillizer]

cannot say a waste of money worz ... wan my fishes in the best shape to prevent them from getting white spot again ... if they are cured the heater can use it on my PNT tank ... to keep them in the best shape !!!

[budak]

i repeat: in our tropical climate heaters dun do much good other than waste energy and $$$. Sustained doses of Salt is the cheapest and safest way (other than dyes like Malachite green and Methylene blue which can do as much harm as good) to battle ich, together with water changes to eliminate the parasite and reduce salinity - give or take a two week period.

And again why would the turtle benefit from a heater in our weather?????? If you go out to natural rivers and streams you will find that the water temp is much cooler than most tanks at home.

[tawauboy]

agree with budak.
salt treatment and regular water changes works very well for ich.

and heater is not necessary for our tropical climate.

[vinz]

Errrrmmm. Such high temps are not natural for fishes, so its not going to keep them in the best shape. It's only recommended for treating ich. However, like its been said above, salt treatment should work. If not, check Choy's very recent thread about white spot on his 6-banded barbs. He's using some meds that he found effective.

ummm.. PNT needs water between 26 to 30 degrees celcius. I find sg water stays around 28 in the shade, which is perfect. No need to spend money on electircal bills.

[theodore]

Traq,

Is ur tank in an airconditioned room (e.g. ur office)? That's the only reason i can think of given ur preference of a heater (as mentioned before, my lights alone would drive the temperature up to 30 deg).

[tranquillizer]

yea ... my tanks are all in air-conditioned room ... if i dun put the heater my temp will fall and remains at it is ... i get the whole meaning of wad u guys meant ... thanks anyway ...

[tranquillizer]

i'm using e-ballast lights ... i was told it wont heat up the water ? is it true ?

[vinz]

Opps, sorry, we all forgot to consider aircon as a factor.

Lights will heat up your water a little, by only a few degrees and depending on how much lights there are. E.g. I have four 36W PLs above my 100cmx45cmx45cm tank... the temp hovers around 30 to 32 degrees celcius. It is in an unventilated room, no aircon. Without the lights, it'll probably be in the 28 degrees region.

[turaco]

E. ballast don't produce intense heat like the 'normal' ballast do. Heat source still come from the light tube(FL, PL) itself. So you get less heat using a electronic ballast lighting.

Turaco.

[tranquillizer]

yar ... i think my temp set at around 30 to treat them and set it at constant 28 when they're cure ...

[thanantosis]

i told u no need heater liao....

just take all your fishes out.... and put into a hospiter tank.... for 2 weeks....

treat them there.....

and those larvae in the planted tank will not have fishes to stick on..... thus.... they will died....

2 weeks is enought.....

try and tested!

dont know why u spent money on heater for planted tank..... btw... for your info.... u r in singapore!

cousin

[vinz]

Tranq,

Most of us will be very happy if we can put our tanks in air-con room and maintain the tank temp at 26 degrees the whole day. Not too sure, but 24 is not a problem either. So set it 24 if you want to play safe.

As for treating white spots, why go to the trouble of moving all the fishes to a hospital tank? Might as well treat them in tank, yes? Salt treatment at recommended doses won't harm the plants much (if you have plants). If you use medication, just make sure it does not harm plants and invetebrates.

[theodore]

24 deg ... *sigh* I can only dream that my tank's temp can go as low as that (heard it's good for plants like moss and MMs)

Anyway, i too agree that there is no need for a hospital tank for ich. Removing all fishes for X weeks may not work if the tank has other inhabitants that can act as hosts / carriers. E.g. shrimps.

Do note that the temp of the tank determines the length of the ich lifecycle. If the temp is at 24-26 deg, be prepared to treat the patients for 3-4 weeks (Recommended to treat ich for 2 lifecycles). Many pple here suggests a 2-week treatment because ich completes 1 lifecycle within 5-6 days when the temp is at 29-30 deg.

[thanantosis]

for all your info... there r only fishes and plant in my planted tank....

thus to me removing all fishes and put into a hospital tank

maybe it is abit troblesom.... however to me this is the safest way...

cos by doing this..... u r 100 percent sure that your plant will not get affected by all those medic stuff that u will use to treat those fishes if u treat them in your planted tank.....

so why risk the health of your plant?