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Hi , i was thinking how could i set the background if i were to use those huge tree bark pieces sold at NA or those stylerofom black in colour background ? Could i using those thick double sided tape or silicon .... which is more suitable as not to pollute the water ...
Another thing is walls ... I was thinking of using small pieces of lava rocks to set them togather as wall but how could i sucure them as i'm afraid that when times passes , the wall might fall ...
Please any kind soul whom want to help me out as i will be setting up a 3ft planted tank soon ... Thanks alot in advance ....
Last edited by louislkl; 11th Jul 2009 at 15:35.
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Use one of those sucker suction cups, attach background to suction cups using fishing lines, finally attach suction cups to wall. Don't use double sided adhesive tape inside tanks.
Thanks Thanks ... i wanted to skip the suction caps as i do not want to have gaps between the background and that glass wall behind .... i wounld want to keep some shrimps and they might get stuck there ... i have tried once before and it doesnt work well .... Any other alternatives ? Please advise ... Thanks alot bro Shaihulud ....Originally Posted by Shaihulud
Re: Securing Background and Walls
You can use silicon but try not to use too much as you might not know when you will change your mind at a later date. My 2cents worth
Ya , actually i was thinking of this problem as well .... But still yet to come up with any better ideas ... Is there such a tape which is aqua free ... as in tape that is made specially for aquatic scaping ?You can use silicon but try not to use too much as you might not know when you will change your mind at a later date. My 2cents worth
Hi louislkl, dont think they have...actually, I've done those walls (Styrofoam) twice with silicon on my 2ft. It's good. Just not to spread the silicon all over the surface you want to stick, just a tiny bit would be sufficient for each point. For me, just the 4 corners and another at the centre point, depend how big is the piece. If you'd change your mind, just use a long thin thing ( ruler maybe ), and you should be able to get them out in 1 piece. As for the residue remains on the tank glass, you should know how to remove it.
I'm using foam background now in my small vivarium. It's easier than tree bark since it is hard, and I just cut according to the tank size and use the glass to secure it. You never know when you want to rescape the tank, so I wouldn't want to use silicon on the glass...
As for tree bark, maybe I would cut a big piece (or two) of Acrylic same size as my tank glass and paste the tree bark on it. Should be easier to secure the Tree Bark with Acrylic against the glass wall with rocks or driftwood hardscape. So if I want to remove the tree bark in future, just take out the whole thing...
Please note that it should take quite a bit of silicon to stick the whole Tree Bark....
Ya , hopefully a little could do the job as i'm afraid that the silicon might give out something bad for the plants and fishes in the tank after a period of time ....
I was sill thinking if tree bark is better as i will be planting some moss or something in the background to create some mossy effect ...
If i didn't get you wrong , you mean using a acrylic sheet and secuce the background ? So meaning my back of the glass follow by the tree bark background and then the acrylic sheet ? If so , i do not think that will work as i might be tie-ing some moss on the background to create some effect .... I really wonder ... Seems hard man ....I'm using foam background now in my small vivarium. It's easier than tree bark since it is hard, and I just cut according to the tank size and use the glass to secure it. You never know when you want to rescape the tank, so I wouldn't want to use silicon on the glass...
As for tree bark, maybe I would cut a big piece (or two) of Acrylic same size as my tank glass and paste the tree bark on it. Should be easier to secure the Tree Bark with Acrylic against the glass wall with rocks or driftwood hardscape. So if I want to remove the tree bark in future, just take out the whole thing...
Please note that it should take quite a bit of silicon to stick the whole Tree Bark....
nope... it's the the other way... Tree Bark -> Acrylic -> Glass
If you take a close look on the tree bark, you will find that you need to really use a lot of silicons to secure it, especially if you do not want the fish and shrimp to go behind it... That's also the reason why I gave up and use foam background instead...
Ah ... Icic ... But correctly me if i'm wrong .... locgically thinking , foam background seems hard to get mosses to grow on them , am i right ? As fertilizers are nowhere to be applied on ... unless using of liquid ferterlizers ...nope... it's the the other way... Tree Bark -> Acrylic -> Glass
If you take a close look on the tree bark, you will find that you need to really use a lot of silicons to secure it, especially if you do not want the fish and shrimp to go behind it... That's also the reason why I gave up and use foam background instead...
Neh, not to worry. silicons are used to glue up tanks. If it's harmful, you tank should be a poison pool by now....and as mentioned by merviso, I believe it's a good idea too. Cut it to size and just stuff it in, tight fit.
Moss is usually fertilized through water column. In fact, i don't think you need to fertilize them too much. If you actually wanted to do a moss wall background, I suggest you forget about form or tree bark, just some netting will do.
Maybe you can pay Bro Unclerobin a visit and see his grand moss wall...
True True ... Was wondering if those silicon use to stick tanks togather are the same as those we bought outside .... Ahaha ....
Icic .... UncleRobin .. ? Sorry for my ignorance ... But where can locate him ... Any chance to be at east near Pasir Ris ... ?Moss is usually fertilized through water column. In fact, i don't think you need to fertilize them too much. If you actually wanted to do a moss wall background, I suggest you forget about form or tree bark, just some netting will do.
Maybe you can pay Bro Unclerobin a visit and see his grand moss wall...
BTW , anywhere can i find LFS selling a great various types of aquatic plants as i might want to head there and see for myself as so i can choose which is the plants i need to scape my tank ... Any good LFS located at east ?
I think there are some type of silicon that is not intended for aquarium use. But I doubt because it is mostly use in building tanks and attaching rocks inside the aquariums.
Ah ... Icic ... Thanks alot for the informations bro ... I might want to get more infomations before i need to rescape them even before they are mature ... Lolx ... So i guess lots of planing and researched need to be done man ....
Moss walls, you will need to maintain them, and if you silicone it to the wall, it might be difficult to remove it for cleaning. I would rather there is a gap behind the mosswall, a big one, so that my fish may go in and out. I leave my walls leaning at a slight inclination to the back wall so that fishes can go in easily and come out as well.
Ah ... Not a bad idea on the inclination there .... Thanks alot for the good idea .... Will take that into considertions .... Thanks again ....
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