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  • Yes, I usually do a water change of less than 20% per week

    115 42.12%
  • Yes, I usually do a water change of more than 20% per week

    54 19.78%
  • No, I only top up using tap water with anti chlorine

    68 24.91%
  • No, I only top up using distilled water

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshfish View Post
    last time they had liquid shizen i preferred that .....
    Liquid shizen is expensive, then powdered more economical.

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    For my water change, I only change about 7-8%. I will age the water treated with the recommended dosage of Shizhen for 1 week.
    Before dripping the aged water into my tank, I will add in BT-9 and Richwater. Dosage is based on the amount of aged water I am using.

    I am not sure if I should add BT-9 and Richwater based on my total tank volume instead.

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    I just add distiller water because my tanks fan powerful evaporate like ten to fifteen percent per week so I voted it so far my shrimps ok for 9months.I heard it is bad but bad in what way ?spike in what?experts Please advice

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    weekly change is necessary. i observed that for my 1.5 feet crs tank, if i only did it at frequency of 3-4 weeks, the reproduction rate is very slow, almost none. but when i regularly change weekly like 30% of the water, the rate shoot up! very obvious.

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    Will 7-8 hours of light cause Marimo to turn brown?
    eh no marimo will not burnt, sunlight will burn marimo

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    i think topping with evarporated tank water with distilled water is very safe.
    but the problem is where and how to get so much distilled water at cheap price?

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Hi experts and pros

    I just started shrimp hobby .. I didnt cycle at least week because mine was not soil .. just gravels .. So i added cherry and sakura shrimp in it ... I started with 50% tap 50%mineral water ... topping up and changing water is use distilled water ... However, every day i will have one shrimp died =(

    My tank is super small kind .. like 20 cm by 20 cm for my study desk ... I dun know if it is my GH level .. So i bought a JBL test kit .. but it said the water should turn red or green .. But it didnt turn red to green ..it turn green .. light green ... I dun know if my water is crazy or my test kit is spoiled ... I am a student so budget .. Now i seemed like spending alot ..

    The CRS haven young boss told me that i didnt cycle enough that why my shrimp starts to die but it have been around 2 weeks from the start of the cycle to now .. yet shrimp are dying ... I think is my water quality .. So can someone advise if how should i change water ? can i keep using distilled water but i am worried that if i keep using distilled water, the mineral may not be enough .. The boss told me to use mineral water instead to change water .. may i know is it possible ?

    Greatly appreciate all of your help =)

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Quote Originally Posted by chansl View Post
    Hi experts and pros

    I just started shrimp hobby .. I didnt cycle at least week because mine was not soil .. just gravels .. So i added cherry and sakura shrimp in it ... I started with 50% tap 50%mineral water ... topping up and changing water is use distilled water ... However, every day i will have one shrimp died =(

    My tank is super small kind .. like 20 cm by 20 cm for my study desk ... I dun know if it is my GH level .. So i bought a JBL test kit .. but it said the water should turn red or green .. But it didnt turn red to green ..it turn green .. light green ... I dun know if my water is crazy or my test kit is spoiled ... I am a student so budget .. Now i seemed like spending alot ..

    The CRS haven young boss told me that i didnt cycle enough that why my shrimp starts to die but it have been around 2 weeks from the start of the cycle to now .. yet shrimp are dying ... I think is my water quality .. So can someone advise if how should i change water ? can i keep using distilled water but i am worried that if i keep using distilled water, the mineral may not be enough .. The boss told me to use mineral water instead to change water .. may i know is it possible ?

    Greatly appreciate all of your help =)
    The GH in your tank depends on how many drops you dip into the test cylinder before it turns dark green. So to speak if you drop 5 drops before it turns dark green, the GH is 5. How many drops did you drip before you observe it turns green?

    If GH is above 6, your shrimp might have an issue to molt. On the other hand, too low might not be good, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chansl View Post
    Hi experts and pros

    I just started shrimp hobby .. I didnt cycle at least week because mine was not soil .. just gravels .. So i added cherry and sakura shrimp in it ... I started with 50% tap 50%mineral water ... topping up and changing water is use distilled water ... However, every day i will have one shrimp died =(

    My tank is super small kind .. like 20 cm by 20 cm for my study desk ... I dun know if it is my GH level .. So i bought a JBL test kit .. but it said the water should turn red or green .. But it didnt turn red to green ..it turn green .. light green ... I dun know if my water is crazy or my test kit is spoiled ... I am a student so budget .. Now i seemed like spending alot ..

    The CRS haven young boss told me that i didnt cycle enough that why my shrimp starts to die but it have been around 2 weeks from the start of the cycle to now .. yet shrimp are dying ... I think is my water quality .. So can someone advise if how should i change water ? can i keep using distilled water but i am worried that if i keep using distilled water, the mineral may not be enough .. The boss told me to use mineral water instead to change water .. may i know is it possible ?

    Greatly appreciate all of your help =)
    Go ask uncle google about what a nitrogen cycle is and it may shed some light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marimo View Post
    eh no marimo will not burnt, sunlight will burn marimo
    Huh. I didn't know sunlight can burn the ball.

    Off topic: read this the wrong way and think bro can get burn by the sun. Lol.
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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Hello,
    I have they exact problem with my shrimps. Perfect water, fertilizer is at is best, they only possible solution i can think of is Prime. Here What i have tried after hearing it in you conversation. I change to Fluval shrimps safe. The name say it all. will it fix my problem. We will see.

    Now a bit of info on what, is going on. After adding 24h tap water with Prime in my aquarium all my plants started to dye, lots of bubble. One shrimps is affected 3 days later, plants style dying. today i added 6h tap water Fluval shrimps safe.

    tank info
    32 gallons, high light, PPS-pro fert. c02 24h, ph controler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papito View Post
    Hello,
    I have they exact problem with my shrimps. Perfect water, fertilizer is at is best, they only possible solution i can think of is Prime. Here What i have tried after hearing it in you conversation. I change to Fluval shrimps safe. The name say it all. will it fix my problem. We will see.

    Now a bit of info on what, is going on. After adding 24h tap water with Prime in my aquarium all my plants started to dye, lots of bubble. One shrimps is affected 3 days later, plants style dying. today i added 6h tap water Fluval shrimps safe.

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    32 gallons, high light, PPS-pro fert. c02 24h, ph controler.
    Hi, I believe that there are several threads in shrimpnow.com stating how bad fluval shrimp soil are, you may go and have a look. It's been reported by a few breeder already.
    Zack

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    I use shizhen(liquid) distill eater got no cholrine also that's what I thought. But mosura shizhen somehow improve water quality without changing parameter and work like dechlorinator so not bad

    In the process of learning. painful but fun!
    still learning the hard way!!

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    I am surprised and happy that this thread is still so much alive after 2 plus years.

    Whats more is that more and more people are voting for it.

    With regards to water conditioner, I guess most brands are of the same purpose-break chloramine bond and remove chlorine bla bla. What makes them differ from one another is their DOSAGE.

    Majority of people still go for a weekly change of less than 20% of water and for me I felt thats the most optimal way to do so, irregardless whether there is a need to.

    Please contribute more to this thread if you have any queries.

    Cheers to shrimp breeding!
    Last edited by Spid; 12th Dec 2011 at 11:20.

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    yea after chloramine bond is break chlorine is bubble off in the air leaving behind ?? Ammonia!!!! that explain why nowadays i find ammonia in my age water....... Give up on Pub water

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    Quote Originally Posted by avex30 View Post
    yea after chloramine bond is break chlorine is bubble off in the air leaving behind ?? Ammonia!!!! that explain why nowadays i find ammonia in my age water....... Give up on Pub water
    Its not ammonia though, but rather ammonium which is not toxic to fish or inverts. Any liquid test kit will give a false-positive reading on water treated with prime for the first few days. The only true way to know if its ammonia or ammonium is with the Seachem Total Ammonia Test Kit. This will tell you the amount of TOTAL ammonia compounds and the amount of toxic ammonia. I have tested my water after treating with prime and found it to be 0ppm ammonia despite the normal liquid test kit showing a 0.5ppm reading.

    The best way to use tap water is get yourself some big plastic water bottle, fill, treat with prime, and then add an airstone from an air-pump into the water. It will help mix the prime all the way throughout the water and also help off-gas any CO2 which is actually common in a lot of tap water and do that for a few days, then store the water and use as you need it.

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeToChKn View Post
    Its not ammonia though, but rather ammonium which is not toxic to fish or inverts. Any liquid test kit will give a false-positive reading on water treated with prime for the first few days. The only true way to know if its ammonia or ammonium is with the Seachem Total Ammonia Test Kit. This will tell you the amount of TOTAL ammonia compounds and the amount of toxic ammonia. I have tested my water after treating with prime and found it to be 0ppm ammonia despite the normal liquid test kit showing a 0.5ppm reading.

    The best way to use tap water is get yourself some big plastic water bottle, fill, treat with prime, and then add an airstone from an air-pump into the water. It will help mix the prime all the way throughout the water and also help off-gas any CO2 which is actually common in a lot of tap water and do that for a few days, then store the water and use as you need it.
    Er... you mean you have tested the water here in singapore?? I've tested after dosing it show 1ppm

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Quote Originally Posted by v200 View Post
    Haa haa....I would like to know the answer to this as well.
    I would like to know how to do this too as my tank had shrimplets and moss.
    Cover the input with net or?

    Another question, how you keep aged water, fill up container and cap it or?
    Leaving it open don't attract mosquito?

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    Re: Is water change necessary for shrimp setups?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeToChKn View Post
    Its not ammonia though, but rather ammonium which is not toxic to fish or inverts. Any liquid test kit will give a false-positive reading on water treated with prime for the first few days. The only true way to know if its ammonia or ammonium is with the Seachem Total Ammonia Test Kit. This will tell you the amount of TOTAL ammonia compounds and the amount of toxic ammonia. I have tested my water after treating with prime and found it to be 0ppm ammonia despite the normal liquid test kit showing a 0.5ppm reading.

    The best way to use tap water is get yourself some big plastic water bottle, fill, treat with prime, and then add an airstone from an air-pump into the water. It will help mix the prime all the way throughout the water and also help off-gas any CO2 which is actually common in a lot of tap water and do that for a few days, then store the water and use as you need it.
    Hi just to let you know incase Singapore treatment plant uses chloramine to treat the water and this is the defination from Wiki the compound that make it

    Chloramines are derivatives of ammonia by substitution of one, two or three hydrogen atoms with chlorine atoms.[1] Monochloramine is an inorganic compound with the formula NH2Cl. It is an unstable colourless liquid at its melting point of -66° temperature, but it is usually handled as a dilute aqueous solution where it is used as a disinfectant. The term chloramine also refers to a family of organic compounds with the formulas R2NCl and RNCl2 (R is an organic group). Dichloramine, NHCl2, and nitrogen trichloride, NCl3, are also well known.

    So when you add anti chlorine it lock or dissolve the chlorine thru bubbling the aging water and what is left behind is the other substances.

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    Wah. Chim chemistry lesson here. Must learn.

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