Angelfish attacked by yamatos

**Davidd** · 21st Apr 2003, 22:46

Anyone else has this experience? Just bought 2 cheap juvenile angels
and the moment they enter the tank, the yamatoes started to grab their trailing pelvic fins!

Quite horrid watching the angels struggling to shake the yamatoes off while they cling on to the thread thin fin tips.

Today only one angel left and half of its bottom fin is gone.

Should I buy bigger angels but will they eat my yamatoes, cardinals, furcata and lampeyes instead?
Tank is 2ft so can't have too many angels right (at most a pair?)

p/s: looking for half-black angels anyone seen recently?

**Nature** · 22nd Apr 2003, 07:43

hmmm....mine dun have that problem....
anyway yr yamatoes how big..? is it yr thumb that size..? mine is thumb size..hehe...then my angel will be Length 6cm Wide 8cm...
how do they attack..?most of the time..?

hahaha i think i ask quite much liao...

**bclee** · 22nd Apr 2003, 10:55

Are you sure they are yamatos and not ghost shrimps?

BC

**PeterGwee** · 22nd Apr 2003, 11:18

Most likely a misidentification of shrimps...my large yamatoes did not exhibit such behaviour before..

**Nature** · 22nd Apr 2003, 11:58

Well BC u mean who..?
mine.?

**bclee** · 22nd Apr 2003, 12:10

No lah, nature.

Most of us know that yamatos do not normally exhibit agressive behavoir towards fishes, but ghost shrimps do.

BC

**wynx** · 22nd Apr 2003, 12:11

Rest in Peace...Shrimps...Cichlids love to make a meal of shrimps. That what happened to my malayan n some yamatoes....

**Nature** · 22nd Apr 2003, 19:24

REST IN PEACE SOLDIER!!!HAHAHA[

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YAMATOES IS ALGAE GENERAL!!!!
MALAYAN IS ALGAE SOLDIER!!![:

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**Davidd** · 22nd Apr 2003, 21:46

well I've been having those shrimps for more than a year now, and as far as I can tell they are yamatos. Bought them at $1.50 each so hopefully they didnt morph into ghost shrimps all of a sudden

(Digicam not in at the moment or else can take a pic to verify)

Yes whenever the poor angel rests near a shrimp, the shrimp just turns to it and clings on to its fins.

Now the angel looks like a Moorish idol: the bottom fin mostly gone.

And I was afraid the angel would eat the shrimps instead. If it manages to grow up to adult size, I wonder if it will start taking revenge....[

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**vinz** · 23rd Apr 2003, 01:45

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On 4/22/2003 7:24:32 PM

REST IN PEACE SOLDIER!!!HAHAHA[

]
YAMATOES IS ALGAE GENERAL!!!!
MALAYAN IS ALGAE SOLDIER!!![:

]
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Nature,

Perhaps, you're not aware... in Internet Etiquette, typing in caps equates shouting and usually considered rude, and in some cases lead to misunderstanding. Please refrain from shouting in here.

Thanks.

**Nature** · 23rd Apr 2003, 07:27

Hi vinZ...
im not shouting anyway...
Why u look me shouting meh..?
Hmm...may be u look cap letter...
HaiZ .....accidentally press cap mah why like that...[

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**Nature** · 23rd Apr 2003, 07:30

hi Davidd..

It wont as long u grow lots plant inside yr tank...
Where yamatoes can hide they wont attack...

yamatoes like to play around only..

**mivec1997** · 23rd Apr 2003, 07:39

hi davidd,
for half-black angels u can try amk blk 162 or 163(cant remember the blk), they selling @ $1.50each but its abit small. Saw them afew wks back.
Or u can try hougang blk 200+(can remember the blk oso [

] but its directly ops the big plot of land that sells plants, infront of the carpark), i got mine there afew wks back. They r selling for $2each, bigger oso.

**vinz** · 23rd Apr 2003, 09:03

Nature,

I'm not scolding you, only informing you about netiquette. It is not just in AQ, it also applies on all Internet forums, chatrooms, emails etc. When you type in caps, ppl will take what you're saying differently.

**vinz** · 23rd Apr 2003, 09:11

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On 4/23/2003 7:30:22 AM

hi Davidd..

It wont as long u grow lots plant inside yr tank...
Where yamatoes can hide they wont attack...

yamatoes like to play around only..

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Dense planting will definitely help, but the predatory fishes will never stop hunting and sooner or later (most likely much, much, much later) a few of the prey will make a mistake or get caught unawares. Same for my aro planted tank... I reduce the odds by keeping a dense undergrowth and very few prey. Didn't stop it from finding and catching an oto in almost complete darkness.

Yamatos do not play around... they are oppourtunistic scavengers. Had a sick cory once, and the yamatos took every oppourtunity to cling on to it and try to eat it alive. By the time I discovered it, they had already cause a few open wounds. I removed the cory, but couldn't save it.

P.s. Nature, I'm not picking on you... just giving my 2 cents.

**Nature** · 23rd Apr 2003, 13:36

ok ... noted...Thx
No

Be [

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**Davidd** · 24th Apr 2003, 20:45

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On 4/23/2003 9:11:45 AM

Dense planting will definitely help, but the predatory fishes will never stop hunting and sooner or later (most likely much, much, much later) a few of the prey will make a mistake or get caught unawares. Same for my aro planted tank... I reduce the odds by keeping a dense undergrowth and very few prey. Didn't stop it from finding and catching an oto in almost complete darkness.

Yamatos do not play around... they are oppourtunistic scavengers. Had a sick cory once, and the yamatos took every oppourtunity to cling on to it and try to eat it alive. By the time I discovered it, they had already cause a few open wounds. I removed the cory, but couldn't save it.

P.s. Nature, I'm not picking on you... just giving my 2 cents.

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Latest news: angel is gone; can't even find its corpse.
The yamatos look more and more menacing to me

ANyway how feasible is it to keep a pair of angels in a 2ft tank with tetras, lampeyes and popondettas?

**Sky Devil** · 24th Apr 2003, 22:22

David, well, when i kept Yamatoes, they never bother any fish, including my badis which are smaller then the yamatoes. Perhaps your fish is weak??? Or maybe your angels are small?

**mrs budak** · 24th Apr 2003, 23:25

Seriously doubt they are yamatos. Yamatos usually just stay on the plants and munch, or lie on the gravel dead or jump out of tank. Best is u can post picture. Maybe the LFS sell u some other kinds of shrimp but tell u it's yamato.

**bclee** · 25th Apr 2003, 11:57

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On 4/24/2003 8:45:56 PM
Latest news: angel is gone; can't even find its corpse.
The yamatos look more and more menacing to me

ANyway how feasible is it to keep a pair of angels in a 2ft tank with tetras, lampeyes and popondettas?
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As most of us mentioned, yamatos are unlikely to be the culprit. Either they are not yamatos or you have very weak angels.

IMO, 2ft tank is too small for angels. Need larger and taller tanks.

BC

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