Need help in setting up a tank for shrimps

[eugene_syh]

Hi guys I've a 2 feet tank at home.. thinking of going into shrimp rearing.. I'm running on some submissible filter/pump and thats about it. say if i'm planning to get the normal cherry shrimps, is a chiller needed( i dun want my shrimps all to die)?? I've looking around and the prices of chillers are a KILLER.

What plants are needed..

I've an inch deep of substrate so i guess thats fine..
What else is needed??

Beginner only.. thanks in advance for any help!

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

if you rearing cherry shrimp then dont need to buy chiller unless you rearing crs.if you want to lower the temp you can get a fan instead.

[fishbuger]

Had a few bad attempts at cherries but my current attempt seems fine.... they don't seem to be breeding but they are eating well and growing. Here what I am doing and know.

Lots and lots of moss.
Active carbon in my filter and carbon bamboo tubes in the tank.
I added bateria
Cycled tank
No chiller and from what I read cherries can take temps up to 30 but that value worries me. My tank averages at 26-28, lower when aircon is on of course.They survived a 2 week period without aircon before....and so far things seem fine.
As you mention chiller is damn expensive but it does help in survival and breeding rates
Fan can help a bit but makes the water evaporate faster so i stopped

[eugene_syh]

Thanks! any successful breeding stories without chillers?? haha

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

cherries are easy to breed just give them some time to stablise in ur tank first. dont rush, no point getting chillers for cherries if you just want them to breed. temp fluctuation seems ok for cherries so dont need to worry so much. just be patient and you will be rewarded.

[eugene_syh]

ty! and i'm thinking of getting one of these

Eheim Liberty 100 (2040):

• For aquariums up to approx. 20 gal (75 L)
• Pump output 100 gph (380 lph)
• Dimensions (L x W x H): 5.25" x 4" x 7"
• Weight: 1.2 lbs

Eheim Liberty 150 (2041):

• For aquariums up to approx. 35 gal (130 L)
• Pump output 150 gph (570 lph)
• Dimensions (L x W x H): 5.25" x 5.75" x 7"
• Weight: 1.5 lbs

not sure if they're being sold in singaproe but pump output means? litres per hour?? which is better? higher or lower for shrimps

[eviltrain]

For all the new shrimps lovers

FILTER-

For your 2 feet tank, what you need is a Hang On Filter like GEX M-size or small canister like Eden 501. Load them up with Bio Rings for the biological filtration. As for mechnical filtration, you will have this sponge cover for your in flow to act as one. If you wants to plant non-rooted plants, i would suggest you to use Under Gavel Filter to eliminate the use of the bulky sponge for the inflow.

Flora-

Most hobbist who keep shrimps will usually keep their tanks with moss only. There are different types of mosses,fissdens and pellias to choose from. They are slow growing ( depends one the types also ) so that you won't need to trim them like every month.

Cooling / Temperature-

Usually temperature is the killer for shrimps. Most shrimps needs cool water to survive (< 28 degree C ). The cheapest way to cool your tank is to find the shadiest ( coolest ) part of your house, with a fan blowing across the surface of the tank water. The temperature of the tank will drop to like -4 degree C from the ambiance temperature. Most shrimp keeper will use chiller because it won't factuate the temperature too much ( bad for sensative shrimps like CRS )

Water Parameter-

A test kit is a must. All shrimps needs specific pH, GH and KH. Dechlorinater is a must. Shrimp can't tolerate chlorine in their water column. Have patience and cycle your tank fully before you put any shrimps in.

-Hope they breed for you-

[eugene_syh]

Thanks!!! regarding the flowrate, how much is an overkill for shrimps? how much is too little?

[eviltrain]

As for shrimp only tank, people will go for 4 time fitration rate. That means 100 litre of water in tank, going thru the canister or hang on filter 4 times ie the flowrate of the filter is 400litres per hour.

[eugene_syh]

thanks for explanation. means i need ~200lph

[alien54d]

thanks for explanation. means i need ~200lph

you can always adjust the waterflow for a HOF filter like GEX.
cheers.

[eugene_syh]

gex is the one with the canister? isnt a normal hanging filter the one tt u can hang on the back wall of the aquarium? cus now i'm using some ulu brand tt cost me maybe 20 bucks in the water that kinda, i scared ltr will heat the tank's water up

[eugene_syh]

btw is it advisable to put in ONE snail (or ottos) as well? i dun wan them to breed so one. haha.

[alien54d]

btw is it advisable to put in ONE snail (or ottos) as well? i dun wan them to breed so one. haha.

1) GEX is a hang on filter (HOF) - Eden 501 is a mini canister filter

2) snails are dual-sex - they can mate with themselves so 1 snail also can breed. you can try nerites, the eggs don't hatch in freshwater.

3) best to have a few otos since they are schooling fish.

cheers

[monster_88]

I am also a beginner but have tried cherries, sakuras and CRS before. I find cherries/sakuras very much more hardy than CRS. Have seen people who has breed them very successfully without any chiller or fan. Personally, I have used a small fan (27-29degC), partly also because I thought my plants needed cooler water. I guess the most important is to have a well cycled stable system, be patient to build up a good biofilter. I used Gex (red) soil to maintain a soft water condition; although I think cherries actually may not need very low pH like CRS. I think, typically you may need about 1 - 2 weeks to cycle your tank properly.
I noticed that my cherries are happier and breed better when I have more moss.
Good luck

[eugene_syh]

thanks! u guys are really helpful i'll try to get the GEX filter, what's its price range?

and I knew that snails were dual sex but i always thought they need two to breed. hmmmm interesting.i didnt know they could self fertilise LOL

[eugene_syh]

I'll be going down to c328 in the evening btw.

[NingNing]

ill be going serrangoon north at 4. do you want to join me?

[eugene_syh]

haha serangoon north is far.. i'm in school now lessons till five plus. then my sch';s in clementi so qt near. thanks for offering tho haha.

[eugene_syh]

I cant believe my tank's at 30 degrees. wth. i think therm spoil. -.- or maybe its cos of my internal filter???