API E.M. Erythromycin Powder

[Matt70]

Hi, I'm looking out for API's E.M. Erythromycin Powder.

Link - http://aquariumpharm.com/Products/Pr...x?ProductID=58

Has anyone seen this product in our local shops?

[stormhawk]

I don't think I have. Erythromycin is an antibiotic, and hence a controlled substance. You can try C328 or some other LFS that stocks API products I guess.

[Fuzzy]

I've not seen this either, maybe can give Petmart a call also.

[bossteck]

On this topic, I have read advice from people saying you could get prescription for the above from your family doctor, wonder if anyone has tried it?

[stormhawk]

They cannot prescribe you antibiotics unless really necessary.. I think MOH monitoring all the GP and even government clinics. Even then you are supposed to finish the whole course. I think the only other antibiotic common in some fish medication is nifurpirinol, but it is supposedly carcinogenic..

It's found in Baktopur Direct, BeFuran, Furanace?, JBL Furanol, Aquarium Muenster aquafuran. I think anything with the "fura" bit should have it.

[madscientist]

erm, moh only monitor medical antibiotics. the ones they selling as fish medication usually is of lower grade and dosage. i seen it recently at c328. either at the cashier table or the gigantic cabinet where there's full of medications and bottles behind the cashier table. by the way, nifurpirinol is used as a veterinary drug, not for medical purposes.

bossteck, if do this must silent silent, dont sabo the doctor, haha. anyone want antibiotic can get from me. i have quite a lot,

[wllm33]

i guess if you really want to get fish antibiotics, most lfs should have stock.
there is no advantage in getting erythromycin over the others in most fish diseases. Why bother to search for it when it is not even commonly necessary for fishes.
just my opinion.

[madscientist]

that's true. anyway, there's lots of bacteria that's resistant to erythromycin for fishes, some farms use it indiscriminately

[stormhawk]

You got a point on the farm fishes and the resistance of certain strains of bacteria now against the most commonly used antibiotics. As for nifurpirinol, it does have a set of nasty side effects.

There's this "yellow powder" product that has Japanese words on it, which people believe to contain some sort of antibiotic, probably nifurpirinol. I don't know how efficient it is, but apparently it works in many cases.

[madscientist]

the yellow powder is nifuriprinol. unfortunately, i heard it causes organ damage to the fishes if they are exposed long term. effective for common cases. i have cases which does not respond to nifuriprinol, had to resort to exotic antibiotics. nifuriprinol is even more commonly used in farms, especially asian farms. if you visit farms, you will notice almost all their quarantine and hospital tank water are yellow, ... nifuriprinol is extremely abused. asian farms like to "see what add what" into their water. wont be surprised if they add dettol or clorox into the water someday, haha.

[stormhawk]

To me, nifurpirinol is only meant as a one-time use. Like you said, prolonged exposure causes organ damage to the fish. I remember someone who used it for too long and his fish went infertile.

[madscientist]

unfortunately, quite a fair bit of fish are shipped in and quarantined in "yellow water"

[stormhawk]

Sometimes the yellow water is not due to nifurpirinol. It could be a weak solution in blackwater extract or the ketapang leaf extract.

[madscientist]

oh, that i can differentiate. the yellow is quite different. nifurpirinol is more towards the luminous yellow while tannin yellow is towards the dark side (brown)

[illumbomb]

Go to Mah Boon Krong (MBK) when you are in Bangkok the next time, you can purchase Erythromycin off the shelf there directly from the pharmacies shops there.

[fisherw]

Just go across the causeway. Not quite off the shelf but no prescription needed.