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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

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    Bro,
    call me bro can liao,

    Master is not me...

    Big got big setup, small got small setup.
    You are good in DIYing too..

    We are all hobbyist, sharing to enjoy enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    Wa, i'm so happy that even master jojoe look in my 5% of his madness thread.
    Thanks a lot in advance.

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Yes brother jojoe.
    not really good at DIY la. I'm still struggling with the over flow system for my middle tier to bottom tier( possible top to middle to bottom tier. because i'm using Under Gravel Panel for all the tanks.
    I really admire your idea of the partition for soil. That why i'm going to implement it into my tanks as well. Too bad i never see it earlier. If not i would have ask my tank maker to do it as well.
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by zonkkie View Post
    Thanks for all the detailed step by step pictures! But then again, even with step by step, newbies can still do wrong.... like me, i pasted the oyama on the inside of the tank!
    Wow so you are expecting your shrimp to help it tear it out?

    goody992828

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by goody992828 View Post
    Wow so you are expecting your shrimp to help it tear it out?
    moss wall put inside, cork bark put inside, why not oyama!

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    because oyama is chemically sticky?
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    because oyama is chemically sticky?
    i know i know... newbie mistake OT already... back to your magnificent tanks!

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    May be I need to visit you to understand more on your setup, from there hope i can help to give some ideal. Call me 97989948 if you needs.

    You still can get the glass stripes and silicon it yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    Yes brother jojoe.
    not really good at DIY la. I'm still struggling with the over flow system for my middle tier to bottom tier( possible top to middle to bottom tier. because i'm using Under Gravel Panel for all the tanks.
    I really admire your idea of the partition for soil. That why i'm going to implement it into my tanks as well. Too bad i never see it earlier. If not i would have ask my tank maker to do it as well.

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Yah, bought the glass and silicon during lunch time already. pasting it tonight and "show off" the steps too
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Don't need to silicon the whole stripe.
    Enjoy your continue DIY again.

    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    Yah, bought the glass and silicon during lunch time already. pasting it tonight and "show off" the steps too

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    why don't need lei? i rather leave no gaps for shrimplets to hid.
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    great job bro, remember to keep us updated. i'm sure many will benefit from your detailed process

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Will not have big gaps even you don't fully silicon the whole stripe, you can suck out dirt in between soils and bare glass.

    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    why don't need lei? i rather leave no gaps for shrimplets to hid.

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    hmm. i will post more detail shots of my tank later.
    i just feel that fully silicon will look better.
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Great job Eviltrain, very neat setup.
    Think your UGF air tube is a little too high though.

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebi View Post
    Think your UGF air tube is a little too high though.
    Had the same thought at 1st, but I think according to his setup description he is going to put his filter inlet inside the tube

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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Ebi, i haven't cut my tube to my desired height yet

    ok, just finish sticking the sand partition glass. will update later in the morning.

    jojoe, i should have listen to you. on side use too much silicone le
    Last edited by eviltrain; 12th Mar 2010 at 03:41.
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    How to silicone the partition glass inside the tank

    1. clean the area you are going to silicone the partition on to and wipe it dry and dust free.

    2. make some marking on to the surface using marker so that you won't miss the spot you going to silicone

    3. apply desired amount ( not too much, as blobs of silicone will form where the silicone applied is thicker when press down ) on to the side of the partition

    4. just gently press and hold the glass partition on to the part you sticking on for around 1 minute.( you will experience some " vingear smell" as the silicone is curing). after 1 minute, the silicone will start to hold the partition by itself ( depend on the size of the partition/type of silicone used, the time may varies )

    For my case, i went to one of glass maker at joo chiat road to get my glass (4 numbers of 29cm length x 5cm width x 0.5cm thick).

    The 29cm side will be at the bottom of the tank, 5 cm width side will be the height of the partition.

    now to show the ugly side ( which is my first time using silicone )

    side of the partition ( ugly right )

    bottom of the partition ( ugly right )

    the next two photo is the left side of the partition(learn from the right side mistake )

    side of the partition ( pretty left )

    bottom of the left partition ( pretty left )

    Now for the gap between 2 partition ( front portion will be covered up by sponge, back will be filled with the soil 5 cm thick with under gravel pane below )


    i cut a 3-4 cm thick sponge and slit the top at the center.


    and fit it between the center partition ( front )



    another view


    Thanks for viewing. Comment and ideas are welcomed!

    -i need over flow pipe ideas-
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Hi evil,

    Something you might want to think about when using that sponge as a divider at the bottom half. Over time it will get clogged with dirt and other stuff, so you will have to remove it every now and then to wash it out otherwise water flow through that section might be impeded.

    Perhaps you might want to consider using a plastic mesh instead? Something with a pore size smaller than a shrimplet so none will cross over into the other partition, but still allow for water flow to be smooth between the 2 partitions.

    As for the part where you don't like how your silicone work turned out, just use mosses to cover the areas when you're done with the rest of the tank. Camouflage the mistakes and it will make the tank even nicer, not just for your viewing, but more moss for the shrimp to graze on.
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    Bro Stormhawk thanks for your viewing and advice.
    As for the sponge as a divider, i used those with bigger holes . That is why its so thick. other medias like fine plastic or stainless steel will also clog up in no time. when i need to unclog the sponge, i just need to wash inside the tank. press together a few times at the same position.
    the silicone which doesn't turn up well will be cover up by US Fissdens tied on stainless steel wire mesh
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    Re: eviltrain's Shrimp Rack Project Alpha

    some photos update, will be adding the words tonight.

    this is the canister which i will be using, flowrate of 950l per hour. its different with normal ehiem canister, the water flows from bottom up.




    the canister is with only one tray but there is mesh which you can divide the tray.
    from bottom layer to the top
    - white foam
    - sponge
    - ceramic ring 1
    - mesh
    - ceramic ring 2
    - mesh
    - 2 numbers of egg crate



    my under gravel panel warped with fine netting to prevent soil to stuck inside the undergravel panel



    the under gravel panel fit with the transparent tubings, turn and t-joint. 2 inlet from under gravel panel to 1 outlet into the inlet of the canister filter


    testing the under gravel panel, transparent piping and the external canister filter

    success!

    testing out if the water can flow into the upper tank.

    full view but without the overflow box to flow from the upper tank to the lower tank.

    -thanks for viewing-
    Last edited by eviltrain; 13th Mar 2010 at 22:40.
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