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    Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

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    Tomorrow will start my leave. Actually I planned the re-scape long before the Iwagumi workshop. Hence now I would have more ideas how I want to proceed with the re-scaping. I have to stress that I am NOT taking part in IAPLC 2010. But is subjecting this thread for critics by people who are interested or have taken part in IAPLC. =)

    The migration process of fishes have started since Saturday night. All plants have been rooted out and fish migrated to 1ft. Tonight will start from the re-wiring whilst expediting the process of dry up since Sat. Driftwood selection will also commence tomorrow where all the drift will be brought out for soaking first without much treatment. Old driftwood hence no risk of sap oozing.

    Clean up of tank should be completed by Wed, in time for substract and soil laying on Thu or Wed night. This would be one round of real serious attempt on HC. I will update the post again when it is up.
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    Ammunition List: (to be updated again)
    24x12x18 (Dec 09)
    2xT5 10k (Jan 10)
    Hydor R10 >> Changed to Jebo 835 Ext. Filter (2/3)
    Black, Dark Sand 17Kg (Dec 09)
    Amazonia II (Increased to 13kg)
    Power Sand S 2L (1/3)
    Bacter 100 (1/3)
    Sunnon Fan 3000 (Dec 09)
    CO2 Canister 2L w/Regulator (Dec 03)
    CO2 Reactor (Repaired)
    CO2 Diffuser (Jan 10)
    DIY CO2 - Trinity System (System completed)
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    Tiger Lotus Lily (Got eaten by fish not usable)
    Christmas Moss (Just got more and put in incumbent tank)
    HC (Currently trying to source some more)
    Java Ferns
    Unidentified plant x1
    Red Rotala (Newly added to incumbent tank)
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Michael, finally your re-scaping is on the way.
    Hope to see your update as it goes on.
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    Flora: Anubias barteri var Nana, var "Gold" and "mini", Crypto Wendtii, C.parva, Marsilea Hirsuta, Flame Moss, Hygrophila Polysperma, H.Violacea & H.Corymbosa, US Fissiden
    Fauna: Guppy, Pelvicachromis Pulcher, Nannacara Anomala, Laetacara Araguaiae 'Buckelkopf'


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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    What do you mean finally? ha ha...Remember the Tiger Lotus lilies you said? Well, I need to nurse it to health under natural light first what...of course late lah. Moreover I planned Wed-Fri for Leave 1-2 months in advance so my itchy fingers can work without interruption. It's planned way before, sorry I didn't give the impression that I planned it so long. HC...I will need to buy some more. Need other stuffs too. Will not be using Set Square to do leveling. Have another tool to help me to leveling. 6 tweezers collected last 3 months including precision tools. Will do seal off and Trinity injection tentatively on Thu/Fri. Why do you think I started Trinity in the first place...lol.

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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Looking forward to updates!

    By the way, I also trying to do rescape but not sure how to "keep" some of the old plants alive for 1 week. Possible to just dose ferts and lights but with no soil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonkkie View Post
    Looking forward to updates!

    By the way, I also trying to do rescape but not sure how to "keep" some of the old plants alive for 1 week. Possible to just dose ferts and lights but with no soil?
    My Java ferns moved to a bucket. Rest of the plant population to the 1ft but some position close to the lights. 1ft without soil but have to dose manual nutrients so far so good. Maybe I free, I just post the pictures of the 1ft up tonight.

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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Quote Originally Posted by zonkkie View Post
    By the way, I also trying to do rescape but not sure how to "keep" some of the old plants alive for 1 week. Possible to just dose ferts and lights but with no soil?
    possible, most if not all aquatic plant able to take nutrient from leaf.
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    Both the HC (left) and the christmas moss (right) were recovered from Maximus project induced algae experiment tank. All 10 scarlet badis are hidding there, but 1 was unaccounted for. Male betta passed away quietly during CNY Eve as some of you have know during the outing trip. The one in the picture is one of the two female ones. These two plants have recovered very well, hence I be re-using them in the new scape. This 1ft is a temporary place for the fish whilst this pict was taken few nights back. Apologies for the poor picture, Iso and contrast got issue plus my shaky hand issue have not recovered yet, still got 1.5 years of medication to go. (Thyroid hormone imbalance - hyperactiveness)

    Have been hunting for equipments and information these two nights so again apologies if I sound too loud in my postings like I am not doing anything. Well, gonna take a good rest later. At current, one of the problem is still budget constraint, hence might modified the LED on UPVC for temporary enhancement of lights so I can get one good one maybe later part. Want to leave the budget to the plants first. It's going to be junkish so hope you will bear with it and still give your personal criticism to guide my improvement. Thanks.

    Jebo ext. filter was added to replace Hydor int. filter. I decided that for purpose of maintenance and for growth of micro-organism, I need something there instead of just a int. filter...of which this arrangement will free up some space inside. I also want to use reactor to drive more CO2 in. Chances is that the CO2 tank will run out in 2-3 mths based on current estimate. Additional Co2 will be supplied from Trinity v1 design and subsequently be replaced by Trinity v2 design. v2 will not be up so fast although I already prepared the materials for it. I will see how I can make arrangement. Now most people have a paint scrapper, I found a plastic scrapper for $1.70 which will not scratch the glass whilst able to perform soil leveling like what Iwaguimi workshop where Vincent and Thio use Set Square to perform the leveling. Worksman glove is also prepared.

    Yesterday night spent about an hour plus at Biotope whilst an Ex-AQ member was there with Victor to teach me how to identify the different ADA Aquasoil just based on the setups there via visual identification. I also bought a Nature Aquarium Book 2009 to aid myself. Went through the entire book of 141 pages today. Understanding each of the ADA products, some which I will pick up at later stage as well. Certainly this is a product catalogue of ADA but it contains information not found on the website so it is useful and up-to-date. I still have Seachem line of liquid fertilizers (except flourish) to aid the dosage later on. Having Az2 aquasoil does not necessary means I don't need to dose. I still dose but at very controlled level. Certain ADA products I already superceded it with Seachem and some others, I determine which one is more useful to have at the moment.

    Right folks, that's all for this journal. Tomorrow gonna work very hard on this, hopefully we will get some rain again but unfortunately, rain isn't coming until 2 days later. Windy and hot wind. See ya.
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    Thanks for the pic! Soil leveler i just "borrow" some silicon thing that my wife use for baking to level the cream...

    You mentioned budget constraint still go and buy NA book and ogle over the ADA stuff, its bad for budget!!

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    Remember before and after pictures (see my 2feet and you'll understand)

    I found a plastic scrapper for $1.70 which will not scratch the glass whilst able to perform soil leveling like what Iwaguimi workshop where Vincent and Thio use Set Square to perform the leveling. Worksman glove is also prepared.
    Hey hey, i never mentioned this but i actually used plastic ruler and a cement scrapper when i flattened my playsand in my 3ft.

    Zero costing for scrapper , one of the many thing my dad had before he joined the lord.
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Quote Originally Posted by zonkkie View Post
    Thanks for the pic! Soil leveler i just "borrow" some silicon thing that my wife use for baking to level the cream...

    You mentioned budget constraint still go and buy NA book and ogle over the ADA stuff, its bad for budget!!
    The NA Book is not expensive. I need to know the products and get those "must have" stuffs..hee. Those I don't need, I know where to source them or rather there are other products which are still effective and not expensive.
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    Felix, you rescaping soon too? Put the cabinet idea aside first lor.

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    An equipment check found the newly bought CO2 diffuser from the mama shop (Clementi Florist), is damaged. the white diffuser at the cap end is broken off into 3 parts. Immediate repair was done to the diffuser head for this reactor. I am certainly not too happy with this.

    Instead of just smoothing the soil and aqua soil as a slope scape(Amazonia II, I will call it Az2 for short), I am scooping out spoon by spoon, into two seperate containers. Each scoop is currently meticulously checked for snails. A TNI-U TU-13b tweetzer with a conical shaped head is being used at the same time. Separately the sharp head tweetzer is also used to take out very tiny snails. Hence this process is killing part. All stones, DIY stones has been thrown away. They did not pass the corrosion test that I conducted previously. Hence all thrown off, as such the new scape will not contain any stones. Some 10+ other pipe holders and 10ms pipes are standing by although most will not be reusable due to the diameter. I will finish segregation first then do the sloping after scoop everything out and clean the tank. Yes not easy, you are lookng at 6 inches deep of soil just to be simple. And no, I do not have lily pipes at the moment.
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    As suspected, uncover some snails. Now the partition in the background is to aid my recollection of soil, certainly this is not conventional so do not follow my method. The partition is just ice cream sticks. Picture shows a teenager snail and a baby snail, my eyes need to rest time to time.



    Bloody worm! I don't remember feeding blood worm but here is one that I just caught. Ha ha...just joking, this is actually one of the five tubifex worm that I caught.



    Still seperating Amazonia II and Black sand to their respective bottles. Some clay like particles found and I am throwing as much of these as possible but some still got mixed into it. High chances fall off some plants when I intro the ferns and moss previously.



    After 4hrs of hardwork, all ADA soil has been recovered, water sprayed to keep them moist. Afternoon going to recover back the 17kg of black soil I have. These are much heavier than the Az2. Hence will take at least another bottle or two to recover them. Finally...lunch..ha...sweating all over already..

    7hrs and 45mins and the tank has been resetted.


    Now resting from the giddiness cause by the constant up down up down movement and give my left hand a break. Been taking 3 bottles and 1 bucket of soil whilst right hand doing scooping supported by left leg on a chair. ^^" Some air-con now to cool myself down and rest a bit.
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    Now instead of following the photo, I intend to lay one flat layer of black sand first. Back row filled with Bacter 100 and Power Sand, cover by Aqua soil before laying and scaping a slope front to back (higher). Any comments on this? I still taking a rest, later doing some re-wiring of power cable cord. Gentle slope of 30 degree or less.

    I think electrical arrangement would have minimum complaints.
    I have the following materials at the moment:
    - Power sand S 2L (just nice for 2ft)
    - Bacter 100
    - Black Sand
    - Amazonia II
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    Editing Correction from Blue Whale:
    Power Sand should be laid as first layer as indicated by the picture.
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    rrr.... why do you want to use black sand?
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    ya michael, why not just use the az2?

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    Az2 currently got 3L only. If spread I might not have the height. Hence I have to leave Az2 for the top layer. It's part of the constraint at the moment. Hmm..either wait 4 weeks to continue when next month pay comes in or proceed. Biotope new stock should be coming in soon.

    Meantime checked that the diffuser cap has been fixed and re-assembled.

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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Another way is to halt adding first, since I still be on wiring the stand. But any suggestion for replacement for black sand? I try not to use lapis sand after being huanted by snails. White sand I am still not at that level of maintenance so maintaining white sand might have trouble. Give me your thoughts on this.

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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Whale View Post
    Another way is to halt adding first, since I still be on wiring the stand. But any suggestion for replacement for black sand? I try not to use lapis sand after being huanted by snails. White sand I am still not at that level of maintenance so maintaining white sand might have trouble. Give me your thoughts on this.
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    Snails and worm problems: Sun and dry substrate the same way herbs are dried.

    black sand replacement: black quartz

    White sand cleaning: not too sure. wavemaker maybe?
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Personal suggestions,

    Snails and worm problems: Sun and dry substrate the same way herbs are dried.

    black sand replacement: black quartz

    White sand cleaning: not too sure. wavemaker maybe?
    Actually black sand the snails is more than ADA soil. I eliminate whatever I can. So weighting my options here:

    - Stop and wait for new funds to come in 4 weeks time.
    - Continue with black sand (its quartz like but not quartz)
    - Go out and buy a bag of lapis at least 10kg.
    - Go out and buy a bag of Amazonia I 9L (Assuming Biotope new stock comes in...waiting for Thio SMS)

    >"< Any other suggestions?

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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    3L Amazonia for 2ft tank sure not enough. You need at least 9L. Forget about black sand, quartz, white sand or lapis sand. It wont do your plants any good unless you want it for aesthetic purpose.
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    Re: Re-scape 2ft: 24x12x18

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    3L Amazonia for 2ft tank sure not enough. You need at least 9L. Forget about black sand, quartz, white sand or lapis sand. It wont do your plants any good unless you want it for aesthetic purpose.
    Yes sir.
    Made a decision already. After consulting Thio, have asked Victor to reserve the last 9L Az2 for me. Should be a good decision. Picking up the aquasoil tomorrow.

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