Crees with optics mounted
18W PL Light
With optics
Without optics
Hi guys!
UPDATE 5th April 2010:
The light has run for 8hrs, and heating had not been an issue. The aluminium bar is warm-hot, but you can hold your fingers to it indefinitely without being "burnt" or scalded.
Not tested, but in my opinion lesser or approximately similar amounts of heat is dissipated by the LEDs compared to the 18W PL. (both are rated as a total of 18W)
Plant-wise, the bubbling has been really I would say, insane. With the PL light only very minimal bubbling is observed, with the current LED light all my plants are bubbling insanely, even the java ferns and my rotala. Very pleased with the result. (yes, some might say bubbling is not a direct indicator of plant performance, but to me, with all things maintained, it indicates increased photosynthesis by my plants. Especially the HC! =)
Lastly, the shimmer effect is -SWEET-.
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TIPS FOR FELLOW LED ADVENTURERS:
Disclaimer: My opinions only. Follow at your own risk!
Mounting
I prefer to be able to remove my LEDs cleanly if I need to, thus I went for drilled holes and bolts+nuts. A clean and simple setup, not too hard to arrange LEDs on aluminium bar, mark holes with a marker, nail-punch the holes and drill them with a 3mm bit. Aluminium is soft and easy to drill. place a dot of thermal paste, press the LED onto the bar and bolt it on tightly with 2 bolts.
Alternatives: Thermal adhesive pads (quick fast, but I personally do not like the stickiness and mess), Thermal Epoxy (quick fast, but very permanent bond)
Soldering
It has been raised as a concern on forums that soldering the wires to the LED's contacts is rather hard, especially if you want to do it after mounting the LEDs.
However I found that throughout my process I have not had any issues. You need to mount and solder, to get the alignment right. Here's what I did:
First heat each contact pad on the LEDs and melt a bit of solder, so there's a nice shiny bump of solder on all the pads. Next, cut and strip both ends of a length of multi-core wire rated for 1A slightly longer than the distance between the two points, so it can be bent slightly. Tin both ends of the wire with solder (heat and melt solder on the wires, so they are coated with a layer of solder). To solder the wire onto the contact pad, place wire on top of the shiny bump of solder on the pad, heat briefly with the soldering iron and the wire should "sink" into bump. Remove solder iron, and TA-DAH! a fast and nice solder joint!
Use a bent fine-nosed pliers to hold the wire end in place while your other hand wields the iron.
Cooling/Heatsinks
Technically the entire aluminium bar can serve as a giant heat sink, but if you are paranoid like me you can use thermal epoxy to permanently stick the heat sinks to the area directly behind the LEDs. Heatsinks are cheap, so I do not care if they can be removed later =)
Heatsinks will work only if the dissipated heat can be removed. Either drill holes on top to allow the warm air to rise and escape, or simply direct a fan to blow across on on the whole light setup.
Alternatives: Other forumners have had success with mounting the LEDs directly on large CPU or graphics card heatsinks. Best way to do it is use thermal epoxy to mount. If you want to use screws you'll have to tap the drilled holes, very troublesome.
Power
There are two options of powering your LEDs with a constant current source. A constant current source is required for these high powered LEDs, and you will be connecting them in series.
AC-DC Driver: These guys can be found on www.besthongkong.com and delivers a constant current of 600mA (I think) and can power up to 6 3W LEDs. You connect power leads from a 3-pin wall plug to one end, and the LEDs to another end. These drivers come in a bare PCB board, so getting a plastic project box from SimLim Tower to house it will be a good idea, along with some water-proofing. This is used by bro ervinelim in his LED setup.
This method is good because it cuts out one more component, and is very fast and simple.
DC-DC Driver, or Buckpuck: These guys take in a higher DC voltage, and then outputs a constant current source. They come in different flavours, such as the 700mA or 1000mA ones, with dimming function etc. They can be found at http://www.ledsupply.com . For this you will need to find a AC-DC wall adaptor to provide the DC input, 4 volts for each Cree LED.
Also, you need to ensure the adaptor can handle an output of at least 1.5-2A. For e.g. I am using the 700mA Buckpuck to run 6 LEDs, so I got a 24Vdc 2.5A adaptor which I salvaged from an Uzap. The only household adaptor which uses up to 24V I've found are the OSIM Uzaps. Even laptops only use like 19V. If not, you can buy one from SLT for like $20+.
I chose this route so I can leave the AC-DC conversion to the adaptor and not mess with scary AC current directly myself. Plus, with the 24Vdc you have the flexibility of adding two 12V PC fans in series to the setup. The Buckpuck also provides dimming options.
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Finally got down to making the DIY light this long weekend along with bro reveru. (you guys might know him from his 2ft tank thread on Aquascaping forum)
This will largely be a pictorial account of the process, with captions here and there.. will update with more information e.g. price, exact steps etc in the future. kinda short on time now hehe..
Removed the optics eventually cuz the spread was not enough.
Please feel free to post questions here! I will try my best to answer the queries!
Parts:
- 6 Crees LED Q5 bin - ~USD$5 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2394
- Bolts and nuts - SimLim Tower - ~S$2
- Buckpuck 700mA Constant Current DC-DC converter - ~USD$18 http://www.ledsupply.com
- 24V AC-DC adaptor from old Uzap
- Aluminium bar - S$10 for 2 IKEA
- 6 Heatsinks - ~S$4 SimLim Tower
- Aquazonic Light - S$15 LFS (removed guts manually)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste - USD$13 http://www.ledsupply.com
- Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive - USD$13 http://www.ledsupply.com
Here goes!
The Cree LED
The Aluminium Bar with holes drilled in
Aquazonic Light with guts removed
Buckpuck for providing constant 700mA
47degree spread optics and holder
Crees bolted into the aluminium bar
Up-close of bolted Cree
Wires all soldered up
Up-close wires soldered up
Drilled holes for mounting bar
Heatsink with applied thermal epoxy
Heatsinks applied
Heatsinks up-close
Filed out hole for mounting power plug
Power plug attached to power leads going through neck
Power plug epoxied in
Test-run it works!
Back-view of Buckpuck connected
Up-lose of Buckpuck
Last edited by edwardchuajh; 5th Apr 2010 at 17:05.
Crees with optics mounted
18W PL Light
With optics
Without optics
Nice job.
It is ok to post the estimated prices for the parts and where to get them.
- eric
Nice Diy thereThe cree led originally comes with 60 degree lens?
Thanks!
I'm not sure of the lens on the Crees, but I believe its more than 60deg.
very nice DIY here.
CRS - CRazy about Shrimps
- Alan Phang -
You can't explain it simply, you don't understand it (well enough )..." - Albert Einstein
Very nice effects and great DIY bro!
Those heatsinks are on passive cooling?
eviltrain: thanks!
Navanod: thanks, and yes, they're mainly passive cooling, I had some small 5cm fans I intended to use for cooling. But I found that my main fan for cooling the tank cools it ok after I set it to blow across the light =)
Still monitoring heat issues, if not I might drill ventilation holes on top, and install small fans
nice job, any issues with the light spectrum for the plants?
...I love rubies too ...
Ken
Hi Fei Miao:
Well the datasheet for the Crees I got states a spectrum of 6500K which I figured should be good for the plants.
After a day of LED lighting I can observe significantly much more bubbling from all my plants, even those which did not previously while using the 18W PL.
Not a very scientific way of measurement, but pretty good indicator for me =)
nice job...
soldering wires can made easier by
a) not mounting onto the aluminium heatsink
b) preheating the led on a hotplate
c) using a metcal soldering iron (>$600 and maybe not practical)
spraying a thin coat of black paint on the back (where you have added heatsinks) of your aluminium heatsink will help in dissipating heat further.
thomas liew
tawauboy:
thanks for the tip =) but I think with a regular 25W soldering iron the solder melts very easily and flows onto the contact pads even after being mounted.
but I never thought of painting it black.. hmm shall try it on my next project =)
good to hear that you can solder with a 25w soldering iron.
you can look at black anodised aluminium heat sinks. saves the trouble of spray painting.
thomas liew
this makes my robot led lighting looks totally uncool.![]()
I love L minnows- A. Halik
betta• channoides | edithae | pugnax | rubra | uberis
=)
dwarflala: time to upgrade! hehehe![]()
nice work there!!
any connection diagram to show?![]()
Just wondering... did anyone use CREE Led for household lighting? Imagine the amount of brightness per Watt that we will be getting! Because I checked several Internet sources.
http://www.cree.com/press/press_deta...=1150834953712 says that CREE Led is capable of 131 lumens per Watt. so a 3w LED would be a whopping 400 lumens.
http://ecmweb.com/ops/electric_fluorescent_lamp_coming/ says that a T5 is 2800 lumens but using 28W so this works out to be 100 lumens oer Watt.
So it appears that a CREE Led is "brighter" than a T5. So if we imagine using T5 lighting or CREE Led in our living room, the light will be very very bright.
Last edited by cdckjn; 22nd Apr 2010 at 12:40.
LED is not as good for home lighting as T5 or fluorescent because the coverage is very narrow and at the center the light may be very harsh...just my thoughts
fireblade: will put up diagram soon! =)
cdckjn: yep, agree with Navanod. The main problem with LED is that the light rays are very coherent, or "narrow" in a sense. It casts very strong shadows and produces a very "harsh lighting". Much like a spotlight rather than home lighting.
But if we include a reflector or a diffuser, what would the effect be?
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