Thread: TMG

**leafhorn** · 16th Jul 2003, 03:31

Anyone using Tropical Master Grow water fert?

Wondering how is it, or should I stick to Sera Florena or JBL. Petmart selling at $30 plus I think, wonder if it's cheaper because the bottle quite big.

**Allen_1971** · 16th Jul 2003, 10:47

I use TMG regularly, on the whole its a great fert as its pretty complete on its traces... however you might like to boost some of your macro nutrients. I don't like florena or jbl simply cuz I have no idea whats in it.

**vinz** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:18

I, on the other hand, find TMG too concentrated for my tanks. I use Seachem Flourish which is lighter and also publishes its ingredients.

**theodore** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:19

A search on APD will give you a list of contents for Sera Florena ... and that info gave me more than enough reason to move away from it a few months ago.

**Allen_1971** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:22

Theo,

mebbe you could elaborate? I mean what was it about florena that you disliked?

**theodore** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:26

Check out the 2 postings :

#1

#2

**Allen_1971** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:40

cool thanks...

**spidermen** · 16th Jul 2003, 11:47

Hi Vinz,

I am actually thinking of switching from JBL florena to TMG or Seachem Flourish.

Do you use Seachem Flourish together with other Seachem product like Excel or Iron?

If I use Seachem Flourish with Excel or Iron, do I still need to dose K2SO4 and MgSO4 at the same time. Afraid of overdose?

Not too sure. Can advice. Thanks.

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**Allen_1971** · 16th Jul 2003, 12:00

Hehehe Vinz is Mr Potassium, I'm pretty sure he adds additional K on top of his regular fluorish fertilizer

**bclee** · 16th Jul 2003, 12:10

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On 7/16/2003 11:47:35 AM

Hi Vinz,

I am actually thinking of switching from JBL florena to TMG or Seachem Flourish.

Do you use Seachem Flourish together with other Seachem product like Excel or Iron?

If I use Seachem Flourish with Excel or Iron, do I still need to dose K2SO4 and MgSO4 at the same time. Afraid of overdose?

Not too sure. Can advice. Thanks.

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err. It is JBL Ferropol and Sera Florena...

Flourish pretty much cover Fe and all the traces. It is low on K. You will probably need to dose K.

Flourish Excel is a carbon sourse to substitute or complement CO2. IMO, if you have CO2 injection, Excel is not neccessary.

BC

**vinz** · 16th Jul 2003, 12:25

I don't use Excel. You don't need excel if you have a good CO2 supply. Excel alone will not provide enough carbon for the plants to photosynthesis enough to bubble/pearl.

I use Seachem's Flourish, Iron and Equilibrium. For K I use K2SO4... seems my tank needs a lot more K then the 20ppm recommendation.

Flourish Iron and Excel do not have K2SO4 nor MgSO4. I'ld be cautious about dosing MgSO4 without Ca. In fact, if your tank does not display Mg deficiency, I won't bother dosing MgSO4.

**leafhorn** · 16th Jul 2003, 13:18

Alamak, Sera Florena so jialak one ah. Maybe I will try the TMG then.

**spidermen** · 16th Jul 2003, 15:06

Hi Vinz,

Thanks. Will try Flourish and Iron + K2SO4.

What does Equilibrium cover?

Thakns.[:0]

**spidermen** · 16th Jul 2003, 15:08

Hi BC,

u r right. shld be Sera Florena.

**vinz** · 16th Jul 2003, 15:19

Main purpose of Equilibrium is Ca and Mg. Has lots of K and some Fe, Mn and few others I think. Not an absolute necessity.

**bclee** · 16th Jul 2003, 15:36

Can check Seachem website.

Very comprehensive discription of their products.

BC

**geoffrey** · 16th Jul 2003, 16:25

Don't you guys dose PO4? Having a bottle of Seachem P can be handy but in the long run KH2PO4 is more economical.

**PeterGwee** · 16th Jul 2003, 16:40

I do. [

] ...Organic PO4 reading shown on the test kti does put me into trouble at times..I thought I don't have to dose but it is gone in fact? 0.5ppm..does not move..dose to 1-2ppm then the bugger drop to 0.5ppm within 1-3 days depending on how long I stunt them.