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    Apistogramma fever back???

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    Has Apisto fever coming back now???

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    haha maybe, i think apisto season has come.

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Great... Shall see how many bro and pro in Aq are willing to share and guide newbies...

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    I still new in Apistogramma keeping, can share more information please, new keepers like me need all the knowledge that's available.
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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    im not a pro, just to share what i know. basically, apisto doesn't require much care. just give them a minimum 1 feet tank for a pair and good water condition (just like any other fish) and they will breed (of cause must depend on their chemistry too haha) but what i can say is that those common apisto is quite easy to breed. As for the water condition, they require slightly acidic water and they're origin from south america. but it doesn't really matter for captive bred apisto as they're already acclimitize to our local water. i remembered i had a pair of caca, bred in just 1 week after i bought them home. as for WC apisto, it's a different ball game. i had a pair of WC apisto dip which didn't breed and the female got killed by the male. so ya had a different experience with WC apisto and Captive bred apisto.

    Basic setup for apisto (in my opinion only)
    -minimum 1 feet tank for a pair
    -HOB filter (recommended)
    -substrate that can lower down the PH (recommended)
    -cave for apisto (recommended)
    -some low tech plant like moss,nana, java fern (optional)

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Thanks for sharing. Below are the setup I have, do advise whether is it enough, as I'm still new in Apisto keeping.

    Tank: 2 x 1 x 1.5 Ft
    Water: Aged for overnight with SeaChem Prime
    CO2 BPS: 1 bubble per 3 second (Not sure will it be too much)
    Filtration: Jebao 828 1200L/H with UV filter at return inlet
    Base Substrate: 8KG Project soil PH 6.2 from TFI
    Filtration Substrate: Dymax Volcanic CR and Activated Carbon
    Flora: Glosso (Front), Amazonia Chain Sword (Back)
    Fauna: Neon Tetra, Rummy nose, a pair of Inka
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    yup. looks like you've got a pretty cool setup. maybe you can post FTS to share with us? if the pair happened to spawn, the other tank mate might get some snacks haha

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormz View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Below are the setup I have, do advise whether is it enough, as I'm still new in Apisto keeping.

    Tank: 2 x 1 x 1.5 Ft
    Water: Aged for overnight with SeaChem Prime
    CO2 BPS: 1 bubble per 3 second (Not sure will it be too much)
    Filtration: Jebao 828 1200L/H with UV filter at return inlet
    Base Substrate: 8KG Project soil PH 6.2 from TFI
    Filtration Substrate: Dymax Volcanic CR and Activated Carbon
    Flora: Glosso (Front), Amazonia Chain Sword (Back)
    Fauna: Neon Tetra, Rummy nose, a pair of Inka
    Looks like youve a perfect sized setup for your inka pair. If you'd like the pair to breed, id suggest remove the CO2, the tetras and leave the inka pair to themselves. Add more hiding spots so much for the female and try to acheive a lower PH level using peat or blackwater as id guess with the removal of the CO2 your water PH would likely increase by a little. And reduce the flowrate of your filter as from my experience, apistos being leaf litter fishes from the amazon prefer lower currents.

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaossu View Post
    yup. looks like you've got a pretty cool setup. maybe you can post FTS to share with us? if the pair happened to spawn, the other tank mate might get some snacks haha
    Currently no photos cuz still very messy, will take FTS when the water is not like genting highlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerling View Post
    Looks like youve a perfect sized setup for your inka pair. If you'd like the pair to breed, id suggest remove the CO2, the tetras and leave the inka pair to themselves. Add more hiding spots so much for the female and try to acheive a lower PH level using peat or blackwater as id guess with the removal of the CO2 your water PH would likely increase by a little. And reduce the flowrate of your filter as from my experience, apistos being leaf litter fishes from the amazon prefer lower currents.
    Currently I have not taken any PH test yet for now, but without the CO2 will the plants be able to survive? Cuz If the CO2 is removed, I'm afraid that the plants will just died off, I intend to add like ricca on rocks soon so not sure will it suffice without CO2.

    I intend to use blackwater after two weeks when the plants are more matured. I chose the volcanic CR as I understand that the volcanic properties will decrease the PH after sometimes. The water have being aged as direct tap water is at PH 6.8 - 7, so I using the project soil which is said to have a PH of 6. So with the CR, soil and the aged water I guess now I'll just grow the plants and dose the blackwater in after maturing of the plants. Any advise on my methods, do correct me as I practically running on my own method.

    The current is not as fast as I have created some elbows for the UV filter installation, so currently the flow should be lesser then 1000L/H, the end is via rainbar distribution and pushing the surface which basically the bottom is just getting some gentle currents.
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    Nice setup there... Apisto love the peat things... Well you can try that... More hiding spot is really needed... Maybe can have some moss in case they spawn those fries able to hide in and find some snacks from the moss...

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Hi, will apisto disturb breeding cories or will they leave them alone?

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    Hi, i would say apisto will leave them alone unless they're in breeding mood or if the cories got into their territory.

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormz View Post
    Currently I have not taken any PH test yet for now, but without the CO2 will the plants be able to survive? Cuz If the CO2 is removed, I'm afraid that the plants will just died off, I intend to add like ricca on rocks soon so not sure will it suffice without CO2.

    I intend to use blackwater after two weeks when the plants are more matured. I chose the volcanic CR as I understand that the volcanic properties will decrease the PH after sometimes. The water have being aged as direct tap water is at PH 6.8 - 7, so I using the project soil which is said to have a PH of 6. So with the CR, soil and the aged water I guess now I'll just grow the plants and dose the blackwater in after maturing of the plants. Any advise on my methods, do correct me as I practically running on my own method.

    The current is not as fast as I have created some elbows for the UV filter installation, so currently the flow should be lesser then 1000L/H, the end is via rainbar distribution and pushing the surface which basically the bottom is just getting some gentle currents.
    CR may contribute to the hardness of the water and increase the PH in the end. Ultimately you'd wanna achieve soft, low ph water levels. And i wouldnt advise riccia in a tank dosed with blackwater as the blackwater reduces the light the riccia can recieve, you might just end up with brown carpet. Nevertheless, you seem to be taking real good care of your fishes with all the UV filter and aged water etc.

    Experiment if you'd like and see how it goes. There are instances ive read that they have sudden breedings in hard and high ph waters due to sudden drop in temperature ( when it rains ) or total darkness in the tank for a period of time.

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerling View Post
    CR may contribute to the hardness of the water and increase the PH in the end. Ultimately you'd wanna achieve soft, low ph water levels. And i wouldnt advise riccia in a tank dosed with blackwater as the blackwater reduces the light the riccia can recieve, you might just end up with brown carpet. Nevertheless, you seem to be taking real good care of your fishes with all the UV filter and aged water etc.

    Experiment if you'd like and see how it goes. There are instances ive read that they have sudden breedings in hard and high ph waters due to sudden drop in temperature ( when it rains ) or total darkness in the tank for a period of time.
    Bro, thanks for your kind words. I was told that the volcanic CR will drop PH slowly, wrong? Can advise the softness of the water how to achieve?
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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Softness of water can be achieved depending on the type of substrate and of course filtering through peat. Though there's alot more to water GH and KH other than just filtering through peat hoping to get soft water.

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    I manage to get nice water ph through Ada Africana soil... Maybe you can try it... Used for abt a week now my ph is about 5.8..

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Though the fact that Apistos are found in Low PH waters, but when they're caught(If wild caught ones), they will sure to be place in quarantine before reaching our tanks, how about the water PH when they were under quarantine? I was thinking to let them acclimatize in the water of our tanks then let the PH drop slowly, will it be better?

    Anyone care to shed some light on the PH level? Whether is the PH to be low when introducing the fish into the tank or let it lower slowly on it's own better? Me took a test of the direct tap water and the reading was 7.4, took the tank was at 6.2 before adding blackwater.
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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Suggested that let it get used to it to your tank and slowly lower the ph... So the fish will be fine... After slowly lowering my ph my Apisto female is in breeding colour now...

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    Re: Apistogramma fever back???

    Quote Originally Posted by Apistoinka View Post
    Suggested that let it get used to it to your tank and slowly lower the ph... So the fish will be fine... After slowly lowering my ph my Apisto female is in breeding colour now...
    Nice to hear that, hope to see small guys swimming around soon.
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