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    Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

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    As mentioned, after placing second mirror, my female apisto has been flaring non stop and attacking it's own reflection.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    She will do that if she having eggs to guard.
    Henry aka joopsg
    Current tank: 1 4 tier 3ft fish rack
    Livestock: WC Ivanacara Adoketa, WC Apistogramma Kelleri 'Red Cheeks', A , WC Apistogramma Mendezi, WC Apistogramma Cruziero, WC Apistogramma Elizabethae and WC Biotoecus Operularis.

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    I don't see any eggs around. But when flare, she goes into bright yellow colour.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    What species is she?
    if she is bright yellow mean she is brood caring.
    Henry aka joopsg
    Current tank: 1 4 tier 3ft fish rack
    Livestock: WC Ivanacara Adoketa, WC Apistogramma Kelleri 'Red Cheeks', A , WC Apistogramma Mendezi, WC Apistogramma Cruziero, WC Apistogramma Elizabethae and WC Biotoecus Operularis.

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    bitaeniata female. Only when she flare, she will then go into bright yellow. The rest of the time is just dull colour hanging around.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Have attached some pictures. Does the female look like a sneaker male? Pardon the yellow water as i put quite alot of ketapang leaves inside.

    Full tank shot


    On the left hand side is the male, right hand side is the female


    Close up shot of the female


    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Sneaker male
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    Current tank: 1 4 tier 3ft fish rack
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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Oh! Bought them as pair though. Guess I have poor luck finding true pair.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Apologies bro, this must be the pair youve gotten from me, sometimes even i make mistakes with such ID as well as the LFS that sold them to me as a pair. Im willing to do a full refund for you and you can keep the fishes if you'd like that. Do contact me via my mobile if need be. Really sorry for the trouble.


    Cheers,
    Kenny

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerling View Post
    Apologies bro, this must be the pair youve gotten from me, sometimes even i make mistakes with such ID as well as the LFS that sold them to me as a pair. Im willing to do a full refund for you and you can keep the fishes if you'd like that. Do contact me via my mobile if need be. Really sorry for the trouble.


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    i think it would be stress to the fishes if i bring them back to you again. Haha, it's alright.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerling View Post
    Apologies bro, this must be the pair youve gotten from me, sometimes even i make mistakes with such ID as well as the LFS that sold them to me as a pair. Im willing to do a full refund for you and you can keep the fishes if you'd like that. Do contact me via my mobile if need be. Really sorry for the trouble.


    Cheers,
    Kenny
    Hey Kenny, i know the pain of sexing the apistogramma. Even some of the gurus make mistakes.
    Henry aka joopsg
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    Livestock: WC Ivanacara Adoketa, WC Apistogramma Kelleri 'Red Cheeks', A , WC Apistogramma Mendezi, WC Apistogramma Cruziero, WC Apistogramma Elizabethae and WC Biotoecus Operularis.

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Just order another female from the LFS which you got it from?
    You can also contact JXZ.
    Jin Zhong Xiu Trading (Pets Boutique)
    BLK 711 Ang Mo Kio Central #01-3501F

    Tel: 64555675, 90407842
    Opening Hours: 12pm - 10pm daily

    And work something out.
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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzieFishes View Post
    i think it would be stress to the fishes if i bring them back to you again. Haha, it's alright.
    Alright bro, let me know if you need anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by joopsg View Post
    Hey Kenny, i know the pain of sexing the apistogramma. Even some of the gurus make mistakes.
    Yeah, haha but im still a newbie uh and still have lots more to learn from the gurus here. You coming back into apistos again bro?

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    I purchased 2 Apistogramma eremnopyge about a month ago, one which was definitely male and the one I assumed was female based on lack of extensive fin extensions and black leading edge on the pectoral fins. However, the "female" stayed gray in color and would flare to its own reflection quite vigorously (until the male would chase it away). Also, the first 6 dorsal spines on the "female" are fairly sharp, with a hint or orange at the tips. I suspected the female was a sneaker male based on the flaring and orange at the tips of the dorsal spines, however this weekend she yellowed up and laid her first batch of eggs!

    I have a A. bitaeniata female that previously laid eggs but is now living with some A. macmasteri because her mate died, and also flares in the mirror when the male macmasteri is not around to chase her away.

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Another way to sex females. They are smaller and rounder looking while males are longish and larger.





    This pic is a female Ap. bitaeniata
    Eugene (^_^)
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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Quote Originally Posted by genes View Post
    Another way to sex females. They are smaller and rounder looking while males are longish and larger.





    This pic is a female Ap. bitaeniata
    Hey genes! My female look exactly like your. But was told is sneaker male.
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Wayne, your female look a bit large.
    The female tends to be more dull looking..
    But some cases females look equally beautiful.
    Henry aka joopsg
    Current tank: 1 4 tier 3ft fish rack
    Livestock: WC Ivanacara Adoketa, WC Apistogramma Kelleri 'Red Cheeks', A , WC Apistogramma Mendezi, WC Apistogramma Cruziero, WC Apistogramma Elizabethae and WC Biotoecus Operularis.

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Henry, the "female" is about half the male, which is around 1-2cm according to my estimation. Hope that help in determine is a sneaker male or female. Thank in advance !
    Wayne.

    Keeping : 2 tier 2ft tanks
    Livestocks : Apistogramma Bitaeniata Mamuri, Apistogramma Mendezi, Apistogramma Baenschi Inka 50, Apistogramma Elizabethae, Apistogramma Diplotaenia

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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Yours could be a female. Take a bigger shot and attached using photobucket for a larger pic. The ones you attached is too small to determine accurately.
    Eugene (^_^)
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    Re: Does female apisto flare to their reflection?

    Can someone really tell how to sex a caca female... I think it's really challenging...

    Show a bigger shot so we can take a closer look at the female fins...

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