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    Re: LED Lighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireball View Post
    Do you have a picture of your LED setup before it went into the water?
    Regretful, nope. The time I were an ostrich and enjoyed myself by burying my head in the gravel...haha.. I took photos after I joined aquarium forum for sharing.

    The first time I want to use LED for my 1.5ft tank was back to 2009. I were laughed by LFS uncle: " Are you kidding me? LED light for tank? No points lah." Now, all LFS are flooded with LED....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel View Post
    LEDs turn yellow after 3~4 months of usage, and are no longer bright, not a good light source for plants
    Do you mean when used locally?
    If you go scour the web you'll find that the early ones using all are from cooler climate.

    Heat can and will quickly shorten a led lifespan. That's why I toll date dare not try. This thread is like poison now
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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Do you mean when used locally?
    If you go scour the web you'll find that the early ones using all are from cooler climate.

    Heat can and will quickly shorten a led lifespan. That's why I toll date dare not try. This thread is like poison now
    I will use my 50' Plasma TV facing down for my aquarium lighting ---- only after I have chance to replace with a new one.
    It will be the best lighting source. Just go outside take a full sunny day video and playback....

    No joking, anybody want to try?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffteo View Post
    For planted tanks, either LumenAqua Sunshine, LumenAqua 200/300 or LumenAqua Mini. I am using the Mini for my Nano and HC are creeping. Ansell is using the 200 and you can find his post on it at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...t=ansel+garden

    I feel that with high Watt per LED, you just don't need as much LED to give a specific brightness while the lower Watt per LED make up for the same brightness by using more LED. Definitely more energy efficient, lower heat and last longer than FL or PL tube.
    nice. thanks for the links. i will go check it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel View Post
    LEDs turn yellow after 3~4 months of usage, and are no longer bright, not a good light source for plants
    do you mind sharing what brand or type of LEDs you were using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygaga View Post
    Regretful, nope. The time I were an ostrich and enjoyed myself by burying my head in the gravel...haha.. I took photos after I joined aquarium forum for sharing.

    The first time I want to use LED for my 1.5ft tank was back to 2009. I were laughed by LFS uncle: " Are you kidding me? LED light for tank? No points lah." Now, all LFS are flooded with LED....
    well, at least you tried. you should tell the LFS uncle that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Do you mean when used locally?
    If you go scour the web you'll find that the early ones using all are from cooler climate.

    Heat can and will quickly shorten a led lifespan. That's why I toll date dare not try. This thread is like poison now

    hehe... didn't mind to setup a poison thread.

    i was just curious to see how much LEDs for fish tank use has developed.

    i found out that if you import from china, the LumenAqua max 300 will cost you around SGD150+ (excluding shipping). Quite interested to get one for fresh water tank. And I also found out that you requested for all white LEDs instead of the white and blue ones.

    Now I am really interested to know how well these LEDs fair planted tanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygaga View Post
    I will use my 50' Plasma TV facing down for my aquarium lighting ---- only after I have chance to replace with a new one.
    It will be the best lighting source. Just go outside take a full sunny day video and playback....

    No joking, anybody want to try?
    plasma? i think your fishes will be cooked

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffteo View Post
    For planted tanks, either LumenAqua Sunshine, LumenAqua 200/300 or LumenAqua Mini. I am using the Mini for my Nano and HC are creeping. Ansell is using the 200 and you can find his post on it at http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...t=ansel+garden

    I feel that with high Watt per LED, you just don't need as much LED to give a specific brightness while the lower Watt per LED make up for the same brightness by using more LED. Definitely more energy efficient, lower heat and last longer than FL or PL tube.
    OMG. I actually seen Ansell's thread before and posted a question for him. Sadly he didn't reply.

    Boy, I am really getting old....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireball View Post
    plasma? i think your fishes will be cooked
    I thought I was the first PHD have this ideal to imply Plasma for aquarium......I were wrong....somebody already tried.

    PL lighting: 15 Lumens per watt
    LED: ..........70 lumens per watt
    Plasma.......140 lumens per watt

    Plasma light spec is same as sun. In theory, it's the best next to our sun light.

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    Sorry for this plasma hijacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireball View Post
    hehe... didn't mind to setup a poison thread.

    i was just curious to see how much LEDs for fish tank use has developed.

    i found out that if you import from china, the LumenAqua max 300 will cost you around SGD150+ (excluding shipping). Quite interested to get one for fresh water tank. And I also found out that you requested for all white LEDs instead of the white and blue ones.

    Now I am really interested to know how well these LEDs fair planted tanks
    Call or SMS Vincent from AquariumArtist. He will give you the new pricing. I think those on the web outdated already. Should be cheaper now.

    LED technology have advanced a lot. People who are using MH are slowly switching to LED. Cost wise, it will slowly come down and comparable to MH at a cheaper price in the long run. Usually are those cheapo LED lamp that will not work for planted tank. You pay for what you get...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffteo View Post
    Call or SMS Vincent from AquariumArtist. He will give you the new pricing. I think those on the web outdated already. Should be cheaper now.

    LED technology have advanced a lot. People who are using MH are slowly switching to LED. Cost wise, it will slowly come down and comparable to MH at a cheaper price in the long run. Usually are those cheapo LED lamp that will not work for planted tank. You pay for what you get...
    Had you tried? Hi-end LED VS cheap?

    Or any PK links?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygaga View Post
    Had you tried? Hi-end LED VS cheap?

    Or any PK links?
    I am using one with 4 x 1 watt Philips LED, cheap one will be a 12 LED for less than $20 with unknown power of each LED. Totally cannot compare. Maybe need a 32+4 LED Aquazonic LED to be somewhere near it.
    Google will provide you the links if you want PK. Here is one that I found, http://www.gardenscure.com/420/light...-watt-led.html.
    Higher watt LED penetrate farther and will definitely benefit those with taller tanks.

    I am a strong supporter of LED for planted tank and still experimenting the effectiveness. One thing for sure is the power consumption is lower than FL, PL or MH.
    My 4 x 1W LED is driven only by a 700mA 15 V DC adapter and that is only 10.5 W?
    Radiated heat into the water is much lower which will again help save on electricity from chiller kick in frequency. Just my 2 cents.
    Last edited by jeffteo; 27th May 2011 at 14:08.

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    so in conclusion LED is still better than PL and FL lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireball View Post
    where did you read all these from? pls provide links.

    i like LED lighting because they are cooler than PL.

    Btw, how do you check that the light frequency matches natural lights? How about those LED lights used for saltwater tanks? Do they match?


    I am sorry, i don't have those links anymore as it was quite some time ago when i last read online for this matter. The frequency is normally listed as part of the sale. like
    http://cgi.ebay.com/10pcs-New-5mm-BL...item43a4fa2bd4

    Cheers.

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    Re: LED Lighting

    What I read before is LED have lesser wasted spectrum of light that plants don't need.

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    I saw many LED light at Aquarama 2011, but somehow all of the plant color under LED light is kind of dull compare to normal PL or T5. The leaf green color look pale to my liking. It may not affect plant grow though but not nice to see . I probably stick to PL or T5 a while longer until they fix the spectrum.
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    Shadow you mean the light too white/blue?
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    The like look white, at least to my eye but the plant leaf color not as green. However, there have possibilities that the plant they display is dying that why the color is dull. Never the less when I asked the price, I run away without 2nd thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    The like look white, at least to my eye but the plant leaf color not as green. However, there have possibilities that the plant they display is dying that why the color is dull. Never the less when I asked the price, I run away without 2nd thought
    Good LED fixtures price are still high. Will still need to wait when more people adopt LED fixtures before the price will drop.
    My LED fixture for 1 ft can get a few cheapo LED fixture or 2 decent 1 ft PL/FL light fixture.

    You may be right that the plant may be dying. I did not face any problem with mine when using LED.
    Only problem I find with LED is when taking photo. If the LED bulb is exposed directly to the lens it will create a beam of light vertically across the whole photo.

    This is how my tank with LED looks. No adjustment of color to photo done.

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