NEW project -

**ZackZhou** · 14th Jul 2011, 16:00

appreciate your valuable feedback

**Yulbrainer** · 14th Jul 2011, 16:06

Wow new project

The left slope sure very high, good that you put enough stone on it.
Will it be another shrimp tank?

**ZackZhou** · 14th Jul 2011, 16:24

haha, used lava rocks so can put shrimps. but not planing to. will be a display tank. heehee

**eviltrain** · 14th Jul 2011, 17:43

Wah. Big project coming up wor.

**Fishy Business** · 14th Jul 2011, 22:42

Keep Us update on your tank! Nice layout for a start!
Whats the dimension for the tank zack?

**ZackZhou** · 14th Jul 2011, 23:34

It's just a 60cm, 20cm, 28cm tank.

Roger: 3 feet from you soon!

will text you when I finalize my dimensions

**RonWill** · 14th Jul 2011, 23:56

Zack, I can almost imagine the final scape but without splinting the lava rocks, that slope will slowly level out. Good luck with the set up and keep us posted.

**Fishy Business** · 15th Jul 2011, 00:53

Originally Posted by ZackZhou

It's just a 60cm, 20cm, 28cm tank.

Roger: 3 feet from you soon!

will text you when I finalize my dimensions

YES SIR! The way your 2ft was done with very good space distribution!

**ZackZhou** · 15th Jul 2011, 01:59

Originally Posted by RonWill

Zack, I can almost imagine the final scape but without splinting the lava rocks, that slope will slowly level out. Good luck with the set up and keep us posted.

Ronnie, that's why I'm dry starting it 1st. Ug or hc? Lol

**alvinchan80** · 15th Jul 2011, 08:45

Originally Posted by ZackZhou

appreciate your valuable feedback

Very nicely done up... Kind of look like my aquascape last time... (memories) But yours gives a better feel.. Give up on scaping already for me...
All the best to this aquascape bro... And 1 vote of HC from me...

**eviltrain** · 15th Jul 2011, 09:27

Glosso~~~~

**PKB** · 15th Jul 2011, 09:38

How are you? I am the one that bought your Lily Pipe, remember me?

Sharing my opinion.

Nice concept on your new layout. Just asking, did you just push up the slope and place your rock on them or is the rock inserted into the substrate.
If the rock is only place on the substrate itself , the slope will level up very quickly. Even if the rock is inserted, it will only slow down down the leveling up process.
You will need rocks under the substrate to hold up the slope. The uncle at Y618 shared with me that he manage to maintain a very high slope in his house tank, he
is the one who share with me the rock under the slope concept. Maybe you can ask him to share his experience when you are there next time.

**Shadow** · 15th Jul 2011, 09:43

Originally Posted by ZackZhou

Ronnie, that's why I'm dry starting it 1st. Ug or hc? Lol

Either way I thing should be nice. I think HC grip the soil better though. or you can mix both HC and UG.

**Navanod** · 15th Jul 2011, 10:20

Hahaha, everyone's worried bout your high slope bro. Very nicely done but yea, it'll start tumbling down very soon.
I would not want to put any yamato shrimps or smaller shrimps that breeds quickly (eg, cherries) either if I were you, as I've tried and proven that these guys will speed up erosion by 100X. You will see the yamato digging on the top and nonchalantly tossing soil down the slopes.

I had a large amount of lava chip buried in my scape when I did the high slope and it held the large rocks on top very well and is still very sturdy now. Alas, the surface soil all got stripped away and the lava chips starts getting exposed after sometime. High slope is a pain to maintain.

Lastly, don't expect HC or glosso's roots to help you anchor the soil alone. They're too shallow. My shrimps actually did "mining" works and created "tunnels" under the HC beds...maybe if there had been no shrimps, and I had done a better job planting...

**felix_fx2** · 15th Jul 2011, 12:28

Lava rock inside the slope as core?
My vote. Hc.

**ZackZhou** · 15th Jul 2011, 14:37

Haha, thanks all for the advice.
1st of all, I put lava rocks at the straight bottom and slowly pour the soil to fill the gaps, then lava rocks again, like this I slowly form the slope.

2nd, I will nv put yamatos as they are too vigorious. (actually nv put yamatos with hcs) last scape I had a hard time clearing hc leaves every morning. Haha.

I'll only add shrimps when hc had fully carpet my lava rocks section.
(i have chose hc by the way

)

I would only add my prl culls in future for shrimps, I think even fire red too aggressive. Hahahhaa

**ZackZhou** · 15th Jul 2011, 14:39

Originally Posted by Shadow

Either way I thing should be nice. I think HC grip the soil better though. or you can mix both HC and UG.

Hi shadow, when you mix 2 foreground plants would that give you a headache? Because I have tried hc and glosso and it gave me he'll of trouble, had to trim everyday to prevent glosso's new shoot from covering the hc. Hahaha. I'm too lazy to do that.

**ZackZhou** · 15th Jul 2011, 14:42

Originally Posted by PKB

How are you? I am the one that bought your Lily Pipe, remember me?

Sharing my opinion.

Nice concept on your new layout. Just asking, did you just push up the slope and place your rock on them or is the rock inserted into the substrate.
If the rock is only place on the substrate itself , the slope will level up very quickly. Even if the rock is inserted, it will only slow down down the leveling up process.
You will need rocks under the substrate to hold up the slope. The uncle at Y618 shared with me that he manage to maintain a very high slope in his house tank, he
is the one who share with me the rock under the slope concept. Maybe you can ask him to share his experience when you are there next time.

Heehee, y618 uncle grew weeping in his 6 footer at home, all he need to do is form the squarish rocks row by row to create the slope, eventually his weeping on the rows of rocks will cover the rocks in front to form a very nice scape. Heehee, that's quite easy to be done, bit not so natural in my opinion.

**Jianyuan** · 15th Jul 2011, 14:42

Very nice scape there, your prl culls will love it!

**ZackZhou** · 15th Jul 2011, 14:46

Originally Posted by eviltrain

Glosso~~~~

Alan, you know that's more than 2 types of glosso, I've been trying to find the mini glosso in the lfs, but I did not see any except in the display tank of seaview(opposite the counter) I do not risk ordering when only to arrive as the normal bigger leaves glosso. Haha

Note that it's not whether its submerge form or emerged form leave sizes, as fiends out here may tell me that the leaves will be bigger when it's sold in it's emerged form. Nope, the leaves are of different sizes, thus I believe that it's 2 different kinds.