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    Re: Vivariums

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    I believe the size of the container play a part on the time taken to freeze the original formula. Seeing that his tank is quite small, maybe a few small pet bottle might get the desired result to cool the tank. But it really depend on Reborn4ever as it is his tank that is under discussion and it depend whether he wants to go in which direction. The most we could do is to give more idea for him on his setup.
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    Yep. It took me about one night to freeze up a mineral bottle of tap water, and it will take longer, to freeze pykrete of the same dimensions.

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    I have this nagging feeling that the smaller amount of water in the pykrete solution should help the mixture freeze faster compared to water in the same type of container. When you tried freezing water in a mineral bottle container, was there any air pocket in the bottle?
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    Thank for viewing, advice and idea..I thought of getting a wine chiller for breeding.. But not that soon.. Pykrete can try but the problem is where to get sawdust and the amount to use? Maybe, we can meet up and discuss about this thing.. Lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcheeze View Post
    Can share what you use for background and how/what did you stick them with?
    Thanks.
    Can share where to get fbt?
    Thank for viewing... You can go to the link
    http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...urnal-Pictures! It done my mentor eddy planer.. He got step by step showing you how to do it... Hope it help.. As for my fbt it given to me by a friend of mine, I not sure where he got it from too...

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    @BFG. Definitely not, Pykrete will take longer than mineral water to freeze. You can google it anywhere, for that matter, Pykrete was almost used to build a WW2 battleship.

    @Reborn4ever. You don't necessarily have to use sawdust, various similar materials may also be used, even newspaper, but as I said, the effects vary so you really want to get into experimentation first.

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    The Physics demo lab at NUS uses newspaper. pyrkrete takes time to melt because the cellulose fibres from woodchips, paper etc are insulators, it means that given the same volume as of ice, it will not bring down the temperature as much. I suppose as with anything, you will have to test and experiment with it.
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    hi delhezi,

    It's a very bad idea to use newspaper, any recycled papers, cardboard boxes even carton eggcrate are acutely toxic to any faunas. They contain toxin printing ink, colour ink, changed of PH level and fungal bacteria. I have been studied whatever materials require for my DIY for many months before i start construction. Even cement, liquid bond, and other construction materials, I did a very stringent check for its toxin, and other factors may kill my fauna. That's I always use natural materials whatever I can use for my DIY projects.
    Now the best background, which I'm looking for it the materials for construct a realist fibreglass background. My suggestion, think our beloved fauna's safety first, and it will be very time-consuming to try on whatever non-natural materials on experimentation if this experiment fails.
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    No no, you've got the idea wrong though. Pykrete is meant to cool via a system, and its contents should never ever be poured into the vivarium set up itself. In other words, its a fridge in a bottle, and you don't pour the fridge contents out.

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    Hi delhezi

    I noted that, my bad i didnt see the rest what Pykrete can do wonder to enough cool small tank like 2-3 ft but with less than 1ft of water for period of 4 hrs at the most ( melting point) if you use 0.5L plus 85% of 0.5 l of sawdust which easy available at carpenter shop in industrial area. But you maybe need to pay SGD 4per kg or FOC. They normally use sawdust to transporting many blocks of ice from the ice factories in the past. However NEA had already banned using sawdust for insulate block of ices to Bandung/sugar cane drinking hawkers due to extreme toxin in sawdust.
    I rather use air tight plastic container to fill up 65% of 0.5 l of water and 85% of (65%x0.5) L of water and allow to deep freeze for days and pop inti the water itself for 2 hrs at the most water will reduce to at least 15 deg c for sure!.

    My fire-bellies already mating daily since I turn on my air-con which blow directly to my firebellies habitat to 20 deg C every night when i goes to bed! seen the few long strings of black dots like this::::::::::::::::
    But i still dont know this dot like this ::::::::: will hatch tadpoles or not. Anyway, I just leave to nature to take part and let it be. :P
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    Congratulations on the FBT breeding Eddy, I hope the eggs are viable. You might want to read up on the tadpole husbandry, specifically for the FBT, just in case.

    On the subject of cooling, I find that trying to keep temperatures down in a tropical country is futile without destroying your wallet in the process. Long term cost considerations aside, I think it would be best to keep certain animals that are able to withstand our local climate with little intervention on the part of the keeper aside from an inexpensive cooling fan.
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