Help on new pet : fire belly toad.

[pyl]

worm bin sound like a big project. dont think i will need that. think buy 1 box of cricket/mealworm can last quite long for 2 frogs.

[delhezi]

Hey there, I'm a new member and I don't have any amphibians or reptiles due to the stringent AVA regulations, though I have read up on them in the hope that they will be lessened in the future perhaps. Fire bellied toads need to be kept cool at 18 to 24 degrees celsius, though they won't die at SG's room temperature, they won't like it and will eventually suffer from health issues. Secondly, feed primary crickets or roaches (lobster roaches, not american/german roaches you see running around). Mealworms and other hard shelled looking buggers tend to be nutritionally deprived and therefore they should only be fed occasionally, say once a week kind of thing. Dust your prey items once a week with a good vitamin powder, and be sure top feed the prey items nutritional food (dark leafy greens, fish food) 24 hours before you feed the firebellies. This is known as gut loading. For extra info, your tank size is pretty good and here's a well rounded caresheet. http://www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/c...lliedtoad.html

Though you shouldn't be keeping something illegal, its really your choice and most certainly do NOT release them into the wild, that's one of the main reasons why AVA banned them in the first place. Good luck and keep a low profile.

[Shaihulud]

I do have some lobster cockroaches if you want some, good as feeders, doesn't climb well and breeds like a "nightmare".

[cdckjn]

I found two other forums which has good information as well.

http://www.frogforum.net/fire-belly-toads-bombina/

http://www.vivariumforum.com/community/toads/

[delhezi]

There's good reason to take a look at foreign forums, since they offer a truer perspective on the things that have barely began in Singapore.
@Shaihulud. I'd personally like to have some lobster roaches, please PM me, I somehow can't PM others.

[Shaihulud]

Hi delhezi, I cannot seems to pm you either, you can sms me at 85411744 for information on where to collect them. Would you be able to collect them tommorow? The colony of lobster roaches are quite old and donated from a collector in Singapore, its quite easy to maintain them. I can spare you a few to start your own, I should warn you that they can and do thrive in houses.

[David Moses Heng]

yong, can i have the roaches also?

[Don90]

I think the best kind of roaches to get for whites tree frogs are dubia roaches. I've been looking for them but I dont think they're allowed.

My whites tree frog only eats big crickets. BTW how big do lobster roaches get?

[delhezi]

Both have their advantages. Dubias are slow, and therefore, your pets will easily catch them and will allow you to keep track on the numbers eaten.
Lobster roaches have the best yet, shell to flesh ratio, and are pretty a steak to the frogs, I suppose.

[Don90]

I do have some lobster cockroaches if you want some, good as feeders, doesn't climb well and breeds like a "nightmare".

Hi,
do you still have lobster roaches? your pm inbox is full.

Anyhow, I think roaches have pretty much the same flesh to shell ratio....

Dubias are just more convenient as they do not climb....

[Shaihulud]

Lobster roaches aren't dubia, and they do climb. Sorry I have a limited supply of roaches, because don't want too many of them.

[Shaihulud]

For those that have lobster roaches, they are live breeder, so do not expect to see any ootheca (eggcases) Both male and female posseses wings, female are broader. The wingless specimens are actually nymph. It is important to water your roaches, place a sponge or blotter inside and soak it with water, periodically wet the sponge. Wet tissue works in a pinch, but place it on a plate so that it does not wet your enclosure. A 1.5ft tank can hold 1000+ of this roaches (estimation), if you do not desire this, feed sparingly. A high protein diet like fishfood will really make them multiply, also they will smell when so congested. Feed bananas, apples, vegetables etc to maintain the population, remove uneaten food to maintain hygiene. I cannot emphasize that they do climb glass, so please use a container with a sealed cover. Roaches need to breath, so ensure lots of holes, but seal it up with netting.

[longcheeze]

Where to get them?
Thanks.

[juilian75]

hey when i post my pic on FB toad....my post got deleted...supprised this thread still around ha ha

[eddy planer]

Hi juilian and Folks!

I'm back from my busiest moments held with my company's biggest project in Nairobi.

Juilian, I think and agreed with the moderator, somehow we just don't profess so openly as we do not want AQ in trouble. However, we still can jolly share and write in the joy of keeping, show off, brag and be the proud owner of the most beautiful critters that we always want to have, right here. So this thread some how will not delete.

I really don't encourage anyone here share so openly like e.g.: where you obtain it from, buy, sell and force some of us to leak information. What we want a win-win situation like share the joy,show of the critter pictures, how to up-keeping the critters, the critter's natural habitat terrarium and grief when our critters passed on or missing. I also encourage if anyone of us got our critters got lost or missing. You may post Lost and Found thread, of course must come with hefty rewards if anyone found your beloved critters!

This is what our vivarium hobbies come about!

Let me know your thoughts
cheers
eddy

[juilian75]

oh. thank you for the clarifications.

I will then share a few photos of my exotics pets then, since it's ok to share photos on them as long as I don't say where and how I got them.

[eddy planer]

Hi juilian75

Care to boast or show off your critters and its habitat terrarium, I'm hungry ,seriously hunger to see the critters and its habitat setup.