Reply With QuoteMaybe you can advise the tank size and your filteration, and what medias are you using. Is your pH reading tallied with another pH meter?
Hi all, I am a beginner in Shrimp-keeping and is hoping to rear some Sulawesi Shrimps.
I am running my tank now.
It contains 3 Sulawesi Snails (1 fully-grown adult and 2 newborns) with a Sulawesi Rock, Coral Sands and Bits..
However, I noticed that my water's PH Value isnt consistence.. It is always buffering from PH 7.7 to PH 8. Is there anything that I can do to stablize the PH Value? I have yet to add in Shrimps bcos of this.. (Dont dare) My water temp is at 28.4 degrees.
Kindly advice. Thanks alot!!
Maybe you can advise the tank size and your filteration, and what medias are you using. Is your pH reading tallied with another pH meter?
Thank you for the replyI am currently using an IQ 3 tank. Urm, I am quite unsure about the filteration and medias wor.. I am using a PH Meter for its readings.
IQ3 tank is a little small.. Any fluctuation might be a little too high for the shrimps..
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IQ3 is a horrible shrimp tank. Just the overflow is already an issue. If you don't cover it, shrimps gets sucked in and that tiny compartment behind is impossible to catch a shrimp from.
If you cover it, it choked every other day and cause a mini flood. There's a bypass hole halfway down the back of the tank to prevent flood when the overflow choked, but again, shrimps will climb in!
All in all, IQ3 is only for display and a few medium to large fish or shrimps. Even CRS will have problem, let alone sulawesi shrimps.
What is your shrimp/snail ph range? What range you are trying to achive? 7.7 - 8, that is only 0.3 fluctuation.
I am trying to rear Sulawesi shrimps.. PH Value preferred to be stabilized at 8.1..however I am having problems stabilizing itI didnt know that IQ 3 isnt suitable for shrimps.. Haiz.. Is there anything that I can do to prevent fluctuation or anything about the bypass hole and overflow? Kindly advice. Thanks!!
I used normal glass rings and coral chips as the Media; filter is normal wood. Is this ok??Originally Posted by Jianyuan
Coral chips will rise the Ph, stabilizing it will be quite difficult as IQ max is quite a small tank, any changes in water will actually affect the whole parameters of the water. Fluctuation of 0.3 on the PH can be quite huge actually - Bro Ecyalate explained to me that 0.3 of a PH to a shrimp is infact 30 X the acidity/ akalinity. Filter is normal wood - do you meal wool instead?
Another method is to let your water resides and keep the tank running, measure the PH over the period of a few days and see if there is any changes (without adding water, or changing water)
Been awhile since i last kept shrimps/ fishes, please give me your kind guidance!
Hi Alex, Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the error. Yes, I used Normal Wool as my Filter. Is there anything that I can add in my tank to increase the PH Value to PH 8.1 stabilizing it? I went to bed last night and noticed that the PH is at 7.6. This morning before I left for work its at PH 8.1. Water Temp is at 28.4 degrees through out.
Kindly advice. Thanks!!
Hi Shadow, I understand that 7.7 - 8 is only 0.3 fluctuation. However, some LFS uncles shared with me that due to small tank that I'm currently using, fluctuation of 0.3 can be quite huge actually especially for Sulawesi Shrimps. Hence I am quite worried. This is the first time that I am rearing these beautiful shrimps. Hopefully everything goes well. I am trying my best to factor in everything before putting the Shrimps in. My Sulawesi Snails are adapting quite well (I think). Water Temperature is at 28.4 degree stable. Just the PH Value~
I was wondering if I should add in more Coral Bits or Lava Rocks to increase the PH Value? Kindly advice
Actually there shouldn't be much problems with the bypass hole and overflow. Just add mesh or netting to prevent shrimplets to be sucked in.I am trying to rear Sulawesi shrimps.. PH Value preferred to be stabilized at 8.1..however I am having problems stabilizing it
I have to agree the Dymax IQ series aren't that good for keeping tiny creatures like shrimps, morever the poor design of the IOS and easy to get scratch acrylic surface.
but I have to admit I'm attracted to the matching LED and color scheme. But for small space aquarium keeping, I would say it's easily maintained.
I agree with shadow bro that you should not be that concern with the 0.3 fluctuation. Unless it's a 0.5~1.0 jump.
Hi Zenith82, add mesh or netting? Where can I add these mesh? Do I tie it to the overflow area? Is black sponge applicable? I notice that these shrimps love to hang around the sponge filter in the LFS tanks. Pardon me if I have mistaken the equipment used.
I'm not a shrimp expert here, so forgive me if I'm asking question instead of giving answer
According to shrimpNow.com, the Sulawesi shrimps ph parameter is between 7.5 to 8.5. Am I right to say that as long as it is within that range, it should be OK?
http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php...ina-spongicola
By the way if you measure pH try take small sample in the cup and measure the ph inside the cup. Water flow might cause false reading.
Bro, a little info can be a dangerous thing. Hahaha! Bro "Ecyalate" is only partially accurate.
pH uses a log scale, meaning each pH variation of 1.0 is 10 times more than the last.
eg:
pH 7 to 6 is 10 times. pH 6 to 5 is 100 times. 5 to 4 is 1000 times. 4 to 3 is 10000 times.
Hence, 0.3 is only 30X if the pH values are in the 5 to 6 or the 8 to 9 ranges.
If it is in the range that Fiona is in (i.e 7 to, 0.3 is really just that, a 3 times increase of a very small value. As bro shadow said, its nothing to worry about. Even slight dissolved CO2 levels will be enough to cause such changes, esp in such a small volume of water.
Fiona, a 0.3 pH change is a 0.3 pH change. A smaller volume does not make the 0.3 pH change more in terms of the effects. What the small water volume does is, that the values may change much faster and more drastically. Eg. the 0.3 pH change may happen in 15 mins instead of 1.5 hours. And if anything goes wrong, pH may crash. However, since your tank is so full of coral sand, the buffering should be very good. Its harder to buffer an acidic tank than an alkaline.Hi Shadow, I understand that 7.7 - 8 is only 0.3 fluctuation. However, some LFS uncles shared with me that due to small tank that I'm currently using, fluctuation of 0.3 can be quite huge actually especially for Sulawesi Shrimps. Hence I am quite worried. This is the first time that I am rearing these beautiful shrimps. Hopefully everything goes well. I am trying my best to factor in everything before putting the Shrimps in. My Sulawesi Snails are adapting quite well (I think). Water Temperature is at 28.4 degree stable. Just the PH Value~
I was wondering if I should add in more Coral Bits or Lava Rocks to increase the PH Value? Kindly advice
Your actual main problem is not the pH at the moment. Have you tested the KH and GH? Sulawesi shrimp's native lakes actually have a very low GH and KH value (don't ask me how those lakes can have such high pH but low KH!). Problem is, we have to use coral to bring up our pH in the tanks and these also increase the GH and KH. Some claims that the high GH cause molting problems and the shrimps may die. I'm not sure but it'll be good to test your GH and KH. It may be very high due to coral sand.
That's what I did. I add netting and it chokes super quickly. Because the overflow also acts as the bacteria biofilter as well as a skimmer, it'll have the brown film growing on it so even if I feed very little food, it'll still choke. If cleaning every few days is considered easy to maintain, then I salute you
Black sponge was the first thing I tried. Chokes like every 2 days. If you can find some fine mesh, you can try to tie it to the overflow "combs". But tying means its hard to remove for cleaning...
Mesh you can put at the part where the intake of the water is, so as to prevent the shrimp from being sucked in. black sponge is ok if you can keep the in place and prevent the shrimps from going into those holes ehh.
- the shrimps love to hang around the sponge filter is cause they either got nothing to cling onto, hence clinging onto the sponge filter, or there is some form of food on the filter (algae especially)
Been awhile since i last kept shrimps/ fishes, please give me your kind guidance!
my only suggestion since you are using coral sands. Remove the coral chips and replace with other medias like ceramics ring etc. see whether it slow down or stay put.
Hi Navanod, which is the best method for me? My tank has just run for 2-3 days, quite clean. I just added in the adult snail in yesterday. Do I need to add in anything else to stabilize the PH Value before adding shrimps in? I have not tested my GH and KH. I used a PH Meter for my readings, stick in the air pump area. Did I do it the correct way? Pardon me I have done it the wrong way..Your actual main problem is not the pH at the moment. Have you tested the KH and GH? Sulawesi shrimp's native lakes actually have a very low GH and KH value (don't ask me how those lakes can have such high pH but low KH!). Problem is, we have to use coral to bring up our pH in the tanks and these also increase the GH and KH. Some claims that the high GH cause molting problems and the shrimps may die. I'm not sure but it'll be good to test your GH and KH. It may be very high due to coral sand.
That's what I did. I add netting and it chokes super quickly. Because the overflow also acts as the bacteria biofilter as well as a skimmer, it'll have the brown film growing on it so even if I feed very little food, it'll still choke. If cleaning every few days is considered easy to maintain, then I salute you
Black sponge was the first thing I tried. Chokes like every 2 days. If you can find some fine mesh, you can try to tie it to the overflow "combs". But tying means its hard to remove for cleaning...
better cycle your tank before adding shrimps small doesn't mean it does not need cycling.....
Seem like a new trend of people starting IQ project and thinking it is small no cycling require.... Just note a young couple i saw yesterday at seaview.... husband comment is this
Bo chap setup liao 2 hrs later put shrimps in die than tiral and error???.......... I felt like knocking his skull but what the heck it ain't my money he is losing.
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