Sulawesi Mineral Salt 8.5

[Jovel]

Just wondering if any Sulawesi veterans used or heard of this product?
http://www.saltyshrimp.de/english/su...neral_8_5.html

Apparently it states that it can Mimic the parameters of lake towuti, but it seems like a pain to boil/co2 the water, adding to that RO/rain water must be used.

Just starting a topic, as I'm kinda researching on ways to get the parameters without using coral substrate or chips.

[Draka]

The salts in my opinion is likely to contain substances that dissolve to the same extent as minerals found in the lake region. In shrimpnow, there's talk about making your own salt mix and the fact that carbon dioxide has to be added to the water to fully dissolve it and for any undissolved particles to be added to the tank makes it likely that some of the mineral used in saltyshrimp contains magnesium, as it does in the above mentioned salt mix, which are supposedly in higher concentrations in Sulawesi lakes than other freshwater lakes that shrimp are found in.

Chemically speaking, it makes sense for the high pH to be buffered by Magnesium ions, as they prevent the water from getting too "hard" with regards to calcium as the calcium is less soluble than magnesium, while at the same time maintaining the high pH. Magnesium ions, as they are more soluble, are also a better buffer and resist pH crashes from carbon dioxide better. In the event that my speculation is correct though, a full water change with this mix has to be done if the water is being placed into a tank with existing water being buffered by coral substrate/chips.

All the above are my speculation though! Not facts I've tried dissolving Magnesium ions into CO2 and aerating the water out of curiosity and I got a pH of 8, but its with liquid tester. Haven't tried anything with it though, waiting for after CNY.

[sgshrimps]

Is it possible to get this in Singapore ?

[Jovel]

The salts in my opinion is likely to contain substances that dissolve to the same extent as minerals found in the lake region. In shrimpnow, there's talk about making your own salt mix and the fact that carbon dioxide has to be added to the water to fully dissolve it and for any undissolved particles to be added to the tank makes it likely that some of the mineral used in saltyshrimp contains magnesium, as it does in the above mentioned salt mix, which are supposedly in higher concentrations in Sulawesi lakes than other freshwater lakes that shrimp are found in.

Chemically speaking, it makes sense for the high pH to be buffered by Magnesium ions, as they prevent the water from getting too "hard" with regards to calcium as the calcium is less soluble than magnesium, while at the same time maintaining the high pH. Magnesium ions, as they are more soluble, are also a better buffer and resist pH crashes from carbon dioxide better. In the event that my speculation is correct though, a full water change with this mix has to be done if the water is being placed into a tank with existing water being buffered by coral substrate/chips.

All the above are my speculation though! Not facts I've tried dissolving Magnesium ions into CO2 and aerating the water out of curiosity and I got a pH of 8, but its with liquid tester. Haven't tried anything with it though, waiting for after CNY.

Still, in relative comparison to the human body : shrimps, wouldn't that amount of magnesium ions, induce laxatives effects for the shrimps? lol. Don't quote me. But where do you get these "magnesium ions" from ?

[Draka]

yes, it explains why they hardly eat our shrimp food! The food goes in, come out already... Haha jokes aside, I'm just testing out the theory of the guy who came up with his own salt-mix and shared with everyone. Mine are from Magnesium Carbonate + Water + Carbon dioxide => Magnesium bicarbonate in an acidic solution. If you aerate this, you will get some Magnesium Hydroxide (this is where you get your high pH) and some of the Magnesium will precipitate out as magnesium carbonate again (white residue for Saltyshrimp). But all these are from a chemical point of view, not tested yet ><