Need advise on a pico shrimp tank

[Navanod]

The beancurd tub can keep 3 adults or 10 babies plus but sometimes more. This method is too different from eco-sphere.there is no substrate at all. ....please this method is for people who can control water perimeters well.

Breed like rabbits to me, is a tank that started with 20 fire reds and after 2 years had produced thousands of shrimps. Your rabbits seemed to be having fertility issues from the kind of conditions you subject them to.
What exactly are these controlled water parameters you speak of? Care to share the pH, GH, TDS and temperature?

[avex30]

Frankly I haven't read anyone here who claim they are able to control parameter well everyone is trying too maintain. I've not know or known any that are already very experience Breeder doing that breeding in tau Huey setup. If there is they definitely are not showing. This is the 1st claim that tau Huey tub are for experience breeder like out young friend. So he does obviously telling everyone that he is indeed a very good breeder and have master how to be a good parameter controller.

[silane]

I used to have them in a jug without filter, aeration nor soil.
They breed like rabbit but I do not recommend this kind of setting as it is difficult to keep the water parameter stable.
Very prone to disease, infection and etc.....
I have to keep the population at a stable number and throw the excesss into my water plant pot outside(they are still alive and breeding!!! Do please take note it is a big water pot with mud and water plants).

There is a limit of how many shrimps you can have inside a beancurd box.
I don't think SGshrimp has alot of cherry in his beancurd container as once the population starts to boom, deaths will start as well.
Not an ideal thing to do.

These 2 parts don't sound right. If there is a limit of shrimps inside a TH box, how can you say they bred like rabbit?

[silane]

Cannot la. I still prefer using at least 2 feet. 1feet also challanging for me liao. Im not so expert to use tao hue tub.

Send from my GT-P1000 (Overcome 7 Series v4.0.0)

My skill so not good, I need at least 3ft.

[eviltrain]

Breed like rabbits to me, is a tank that started with 20 fire reds and after 2 years had produced thousands of shrimps. Your rabbits seemed to be having fertility issues from the kind of conditions you subject them to.
What exactly are these controlled water parameters you speak of? Care to share the pH, GH, TDS and temperature?

He even needs to reuse tao hue tub to rear shrimps, don't think he got the equiptments for water parameter test ba.

Expert lei.

Send from my GT-P1000 (Overcome 7 Series v4.0.0)

[Ebi]

Over CNY, I was given a small pico tank (approx 23x18x15cm or 6L) with a small HOB filter and plan to use it to keep dwarf shrimps like RCS or their yellow cousins.
Have a couple of questions as I don't have any experience in keeping dwarf shrimps....

1. Any differences in keeping glass shirmps vs dwarf shrimps? ie: are they hardy? do they have specific needs?
   I've 10 glass shrimps in my main planted tank (soft 6.0pH water) ...all of which have grown from tiny ones into 4-5cm monsters, without having to take specific care of them (apart from dropping in the occasional sinking pallet for them)
2. What sort of water conditions like pH and temp do dwarf shrimps like RCS prefer?
   The pico tank is currently undergoing cycling, with water pH around 6.0+, as it has a substrate of ADA Amazonia II soil.
3. Do RCS or other dwarf shrimps eat those sinking algae palettes or other fish food?
   I currently feed my glass shrimps with sinking fish food palettes for plecos and algae palettes. The glass shrimps have no problems picking and tearing at those hard palettes with their claws.
4. How many shrimps can I keep in that small pico tank?
5. Any recommended filters for such a small tank? How much flowrate can dwarf shrimps tahan?
   The current HOB filter is quite useless when I try to pack in a denser filter media....planning to get another filter.

This is my office table tank. Think its about 6 inches only or about the 6 litres or thereabouts you are refering to.
There are 10 Fire Yellows, 3 small pcs of driftwood with mini pelia, nana petitie, and dwaft needle leaf java fern + a small bunch of floating salvinia.
One mini light + one mini HOF with less than 10 pc of ceramic rings
The shrimps were introduced when they were juveniles. They are still active and growing. In order to maintain water quality, feeding is only once or twice a week.
No chance for water change as the water gets evaporated fast due the daytime air-conditioning.

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[veggie]

The beancurd tub can keep 3 adults or 10 babies plus but sometimes more. This method is too different from eco-sphere.there is no substrate at all. ....please this method is for people who can control water perimeters well.

Wah.... Master sgshrimp! Please teach me how to control perimeters well in 250ml of water and without and media or substrate. I wanted to throw away all the tank and keep all my shrimps in bean curd tub Liao. That way in less then 1year all the big brand canister maker can close shop Liao. You are my idol. I worship YOU!!!!!

[hyun007]

Not trying to defend Sgshrimp, in my opinion, he is just trying to say that 3 adults shrimps(like hard cherry) is able to breed in a bean curb tub.
but you have to remove all shrimplets or adults once they are born.
Pretty much like a kampong kid keeping guppy/betta in a jam jar.

I will not recommend this kind of keeping/breeding of shrimps.
You will need to use to use siphon syringe/sucking tube to clean the shit, top up will have to be very slow dripping method.
Too much hazzard if you are going to do it on 20-40 bean curd tubs for mass breeding.
Water parameter is hard to maintain, hardy shrimps might live but very unhappy.
I will rather get a 2 ft tank with good filters and which will save me lot of time and my own stress of doing all those sucking and dripping. =P

[vannel]

Waa. Everyone's being a little offensive towards sgshrimps.

Haha. On a more neutral stand, I don't doubt his shrimps can survive in a beancurd container with plants. Especially the more hardy species of shrimps. Maybe it really did breed as well.. He did mention he offloads the extra shrimps into a water plant pot and maintains a very small number of shrimps in his beancurd container. Otherwise obviously cannot survive with so many shrimplets inside. You see the former colourful aquarium uncle's shrimps which are packed and left floating in his tanks, waiting to be sold. Those shrimps also get berried and some even last long enough in the packet to release their shrimplets. As alvinchan has mentioned, this is like a water-changeable, feed-able ecosphere.

Anyway, that said (and please don't flame me as well), the method he employs is probably not useful for many people since the shrimps cannot be clearly seen in the beancurd container. I don't agree with keeping shrimps in such a small setup anyway (no enjoyment to the aquarist, no enjoyment for the shrimps either). I wonder why he bothers with using this method at all since his colony of shrimps cannot survive together and has to be thrown into a water plant pot. This is a long shot, but, perhaps he's doing some selective breeding from his stock of shrimps..

Cut him some slack. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Don't shoot him down immediately just because he's doing something different. Nowadays also alot of bros here trying inert substrate or sand, which would have been shot down a year or two ago. Chillers also same thing.. Everyone said no chiller cannot keep CRS a year ago, but many people have success with their non-chiller setups (granted the CRS are probably not top grade).

[hyun007]

Waa. Everyone's being a little offensive towards sgshrimps.

Haha. On a more neutral stand, I don't doubt his shrimps can survive in a beancurd container with plants. Especially the more hardy species of shrimps. Maybe it really did breed as well.. He did mention he offloads the extra shrimps into a water plant pot and maintains a very small number of shrimps in his beancurd container. Otherwise obviously cannot survive with so many shrimplets inside. You see the former colourful aquarium uncle's shrimps which are packed and left floating in his tanks, waiting to be sold. Those shrimps also get berried and some even last long enough in the packet to release their shrimplets. As alvinchan has mentioned, this is like a water-changeable, feed-able ecosphere.

Anyway, that said (and please don't flame me as well), the method he employs is probably not useful for many people since the shrimps cannot be clearly seen in the beancurd container. I don't agree with keeping shrimps in such a small setup anyway (no enjoyment to the aquarist, no enjoyment for the shrimps either). I wonder why he bothers with using this method at all since his colony of shrimps cannot survive together and has to be thrown into a water plant pot. This is a long shot, but, perhaps he's doing some selective breeding from his stock of shrimps..

Cut him some slack. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Don't shoot him down immediately just because he's doing something different. Nowadays also alot of bros here trying inert substrate or sand, which would have been shot down a year or two ago. Chillers also same thing.. Everyone said no chiller cannot keep CRS a year ago, but many people have success with their non-chiller setups (granted the CRS are probably not top grade).

Aheeem..... the water plant pot is me!!!
Not Sgshrimps!!!

[vannel]

Ohhh..!! Haha. Anyway same la, maybe he redistributes his shrimplets into other containers..? Otherwise so many shrimplets how to survive?

[cheetf]

Ohhh..!! Haha. Anyway same la, maybe he redistributes his shrimplets into other containers..? Otherwise so many shrimplets how to survive?

More tau huey tubs?

[Navanod]

I take issues not with the claim that shrimps can survive (albeit not very happily) in a tub, but with the supporting claims that are misleading at best.

Shrimps cannot "breed like rabbits" in a tub. Nor is it possible to "control water parameters well" in a tub unless the water is taken from a well established tank with stabilized parameters.

When I first started, it was exactly such types of claims that made me think I can keep sakuras in a $6 5 inches by 3 inches glass tank, and even then, I had enough sense to use an airstone. Needless to say, most didn't make it and that's when I went back to my books to learn.

Partial & incomplete information can be worse than not giving any information at all. If sgshrimps is so confident of his methods, please start a project thread to showcase the entire process and results.

[hyun007]

More tau huey tubs?

It is ugly to have many tau huey tubs in the room.

[sgshrimps]

The shrimps i mass order are sold at a higher price when i got them but the money earned i all used to buy shrimps.Secondly , If all of the bros don't really believe , I will prove it to your all.If my method succeed.All of the bros that used to disagree will pass me a mosura product each okay ???Let's get things clear.
Conditions:
1)shrimps are to be kept in beancurd container
2)Any type of shrimps
3)Water change allowed everyday
4)Weekly update on beancurd shrimp keeping journal.

If the conditions above are accepted by all the Bros , I will take action and prove it to all of you in due time.

[eviltrain]

The shrimps i mass order are sold at a higher price when i got them but the money earned i all used to buy shrimps.Secondly , If all of the bros don't really believe , I will prove it to your all.If my method succeed.All of the bros that used to disagree will pass me a mosura product each okay ???Let's get things clear.
Conditions:
1)shrimps are to be kept in beancurd container
2)Any type of shrimps
3)Water change allowed everyday
4)Weekly update on beancurd shrimp keeping journal.

If the conditions above are accepted by all the Bros , I will take action and prove it to all of you in due time.

Challange accepted. I will give you mosura mineral plus.

But please list down 2) any type of shrimp list. Including bkk, wine red, blue bolt?

And to perk things up. If you can get bkk, wine red and blue blot to breed in tao hue tub, i will give you full range of mosura products in market now.

Send from my GT-P1000 (Overcome 7 Series v4.0.0)

[sgshrimps]

@avex30 , I don't sell cherry shrimps.And the cherry shrimps have been kept for quite some time in the beancurd container.Plus , the fire yellow shrimps are passed to their owners immediately after collection.I didn't kept them in any beancurd container at all.Can you please for goodness sake , stop all this nonsensical stuff and also to all the online Bros ? This forum is for us to share knowledge with one another , I just shared mine but you didn't even share but quarelled .

[hyun007]

When I first started, it was exactly such types of claims that made me think I can keep sakuras in a $6 5 inches by 3 inches glass tank, and even then, I had enough sense to use an airstone. Needless to say, most didn't make it and that's when I went back to my books to learn.

5inches by 3inches with airstone???
How many Sakura did you stuff in there???!!!

For those who does not have space/money for them, don't keep them.

[sgshrimps]

@eviltrain , I will be using cherry shrimps , as experiment before.

[cheetf]

The shrimps i mass order are sold at a higher price when i got them but the money earned i all used to buy shrimps.Secondly , If all of the bros don't really believe , I will prove it to your all.If my method succeed.All of the bros that used to disagree will pass me a mosura product each okay ???Let's get things clear.
Conditions:
1)shrimps are to be kept in beancurd container
2)Any type of shrimps
3)Water change allowed everyday
4)Weekly update on beancurd shrimp keeping journal.

If the conditions above are accepted by all the Bros , I will take action and prove it to all of you in due time.

How do you improve the hobby by making money off other people and buying more shrimps? Selling stuff and making some pocket money is one thing but claiming that your mass ordering improves the hobby is another. So please don't try to appear to be this hobby improving saint that you claim to be. As the chinese saying goes, we eat more salt than you eat rice, so don't give us any of this bull crap.