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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

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    Since we are on the topic of tank parameters, how do you efficiently keep the temperature between 28 - 30. The tank is currently in my room and I have the aircon switched on at night (for comfort of sleep lah ) so temperature might vary throughout the night. Yesterday evening when I was introducing the new snails I got off from Yany (thanks!), the water felt a little cold to the touch (I reckon it might be 26-27 degrees). I don't suppose a heater is needed? Even so, where can you place it such that it doesn't create weird temperature changes?
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    Since we are on the topic of tank parameters, how do you efficiently keep the temperature between 28 - 30. The tank is currently in my room and I have the aircon switched on at night (for comfort of sleep lah ) so temperature might vary throughout the night. Yesterday evening when I was introducing the new snails I got off from Yany (thanks!), the water felt a little cold to the touch (I reckon it might be 26-27 degrees). I don't suppose a heater is needed? Even so, where can you place it such that it doesn't create weird temperature changes?
    The heater can preset at the desired temperature. You can place anywhere, it's like a chiller also. Once it detects the temp drop, it will heat up. Once temp reach it will cut off. So not to worry where to place, but not sure will shrimps get burn if they cling themselves on the heater, when it starts to heat.

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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    used to keep the sulawesi snails in my room too with aircon.. tank temperature with aircon is 25 degrees and can be 30 degrees without aircon.. no problem

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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith82 View Post
    The heater can preset at the desired temperature. You can place anywhere, it's like a chiller also. Once it detects the temp drop, it will heat up. Once temp reach it will cut off. So not to worry where to place, but not sure will shrimps get burn if they cling themselves on the heater, when it starts to heat.
    That's what I am afraid of also, and also the snails that might move over it.


    Quote Originally Posted by boxedfish View Post
    used to keep the sulawesi snails in my room too with aircon.. tank temperature with aircon is 25 degrees and can be 30 degrees without aircon.. no problem
    how low you switch your air-con to? mine is kept at 23 degrees at fan 2.
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    how low you switch your air-con to? mine is kept at 23 degrees at fan 2.
    air con at 26 degrees. anyway, sulawesi snails are pretty hardy.. if you are keeping a snail specific tank, should be fine.. cant say about the shrimps because i have no luck on keeping them. A friend of mine managed to keep the snails alive in office tank at 24 degrees...

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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    Since we are on the topic of tank parameters, how do you efficiently keep the temperature between 28 - 30. The tank is currently in my room and I have the aircon switched on at night (for comfort of sleep lah ) so temperature might vary throughout the night. Yesterday evening when I was introducing the new snails I got off from Yany (thanks!), the water felt a little cold to the touch (I reckon it might be 26-27 degrees). I don't suppose a heater is needed? Even so, where can you place it such that it doesn't create weird temperature changes?
    Bro, don't worry about the temperature that much. Wrong focus!! Instead, pay more attention to water stability, meaning to say, minimise fluctuations. If you think about it, in their natural environment, do you think the temperature stays at a constant of +/- 2-3 deg.C? I seriously doubt so. They would experience warmer water temperatures of about 26-27 degC in the deeper areas of the lakes and probably 28-29 degC at the shallower areas, during the day. And when night falls or during rainy seasons, the temperature is bound to drop to about 25 degC?

    For those who knows where I keep my shrimps and now snails, my office is not room temperature and the air-con is definitely blowing across to the tanks. My lowest temperature reading for the tank water (probe placed about 3-4 inches below water surface), 24 degC. My air-con is set at 25 degC but the water chills as long as my air-con is ON.

    Also, I think 23 degC for air-con throughout the night is abit extreme. Try 25 degC, you will still be comfortable.

    But then having said that, this is my tank and I have to put a disclaimer here: I do not take responsibility for anyone trying this stunt and as a result, suffers casualties nor do I take responsibility for any controversial discussion after reading this post.
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    Since we are on the topic of tank parameters, how do you efficiently keep the temperature between 28 - 30.
    Simple, don't do anything. Ambient temperature in our rooms, depending on where the tank and your HDB block is located, plays a part. The tank in my hall is usually around 27-28 deg C depending on ambient temperature. Since these are basically tropical lakes, the climate should not differ from ours too much.

    As with most tropical fish and snails, you don't need a heater if you're in this part of the world.
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by mincedmeat View Post
    Since we are on the topic of tank parameters, how do you efficiently keep the temperature between 28 - 30. The tank is currently in my room and I have the aircon switched on at night (for comfort of sleep lah ) so temperature might vary throughout the night. Yesterday evening when I was introducing the new snails I got off from Yany (thanks!), the water felt a little cold to the touch (I reckon it might be 26-27 degrees). I don't suppose a heater is needed? Even so, where can you place it such that it doesn't create weird temperature changes?
    Do not worry on the temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Bro, don't worry about the temperature that much. Wrong focus!! Instead, pay more attention to water stability, meaning to say, minimise fluctuations. If you think about it, in their natural environment, do you think the temperature stays at a constant of +/- 2-3 deg.C? I seriously doubt so. They would experience warmer water temperatures of about 26-27 degC in the deeper areas of the lakes and probably 28-29 degC at the shallower areas, during the day. And when night falls or during rainy seasons, the temperature is bound to drop to about 25 degC?

    For those who knows where I keep my shrimps and now snails, my office is not room temperature and the air-con is definitely blowing across to the tanks. My lowest temperature reading for the tank water (probe placed about 3-4 inches below water surface), 24 degC. My air-con is set at 25 degC but the water chills as long as my air-con is ON.

    Also, I think 23 degC for air-con throughout the night is abit extreme. Try 25 degC, you will still be comfortable.

    But then having said that, this is my tank and I have to put a disclaimer here: I do not take responsibility for anyone trying this stunt and as a result, suffers casualties nor do I take responsibility for any controversial discussion after reading this post.
    Haha. I'm going to get a couple as test baits this weekend, just to ensure things are a-ok with the tank. The baby tylo seems to be taking well to the tank parameters so I will not "chu stun". But like what you said, I subscribe to the theory that the temperatures in the lake can drop quite drastically at night. I guess ambient shelter and shade would provide some warmth or at least security.


    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk View Post
    Simple, don't do anything. Ambient temperature in our rooms, depending on where the tank and your HDB block is located, plays a part. The tank in my hall is usually around 27-28 deg C depending on ambient temperature. Since these are basically tropical lakes, the climate should not differ from ours too much.

    As with most tropical fish and snails, you don't need a heater if you're in this part of the world.
    I know! I can feel the heat these few days. Anyway, I was wondering if covering the tank would help to keep the temperature in? I think the only problem would be the oxygen content the tank would able to get even with a rainbar in place.
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Try not to cover the tank, because if you do this, it will create a greenhouse effect, and you don't want that in a fish tank. At temperatures above 31-32 deg C, some fish will show signs of discomfort, and snails and shrimps may die.

    Uncovered tanks will remain cooler than covered ones, though evaporation will be higher.
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    Not surprised there.

    I realised a lot of us here are the "reactive type", well at least I speak for myself. Something happens, and then we react but I guess that's where the challenge of getting it right or back to the normal condition thrills most people.
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    Re: Sulewasi shrimp water parameters

    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk View Post
    Try not to cover the tank, because if you do this, it will create a greenhouse effect, and you don't want that in a fish tank. At temperatures above 31-32 deg C, some fish will show signs of discomfort, and snails and shrimps may die.

    Uncovered tanks will remain cooler than covered ones, though evaporation will be higher.
    But won't the lighting heat up the water? I cover because of this and shrimps jumping out...

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    Hmm. You cover because you want to prevent the water from heating up? But the glass will still conduct heat and will, like what stormhawk mentioned, create a greenhouse effect. Anyway, I'm using LED lights on the sulawesi tank.
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    Haha bro, just want to point out, LED lights also have heat, just not that much. Learnt the hard way, school experiment crashed cause the LED lights were heating up the mini set-ups and nearly couldn't get any results if not for some help from a friendly bro here...

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    LED lights still need cooling fans mounted to transfer the heat away. Even though they are not as warm as other types of lights, without some form of ventilation they will heat up the tank.
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