Ivanacara adoketa spawned.

[doppelbanddwarf]

Scope left the scene like so many others.

[Sinubux]

I was actually thinking of moving them to a 2ft tank and do water changes with bottled distilled water, since I do not have a DI water system and 3ft is too expensive to do water changes with distilled water.

I think you just have to add in a very good water conditioner, overdose if you may and let it aged for more than a week if you are cautious.

[doppelbanddwarf]

I'm using Seachem prime. I don't have any spare space to age the water.

[Sinubux]

I'm using Seachem prime. I don't have any spare space to age the water.

Guess you have to make do with what you are having.

[mobile2007]

I searched through both forums ( aro and aq ) for adoketa spawn ( and hatched fries) . Quite a few of them do not have any specific setup or RO water, i.e the usual setup for apisto, sponge filter, fern.

Like this Link to arof

[Aquanoob]

Will the adoketa be better in a planted tank or a natural habitat tank? I used to keep 2 pair of Apisto Viejita and Caca Triple Red in a 1 feet planted tank and they spawned but ate up the egg few days later.

[doppelbanddwarf]

Maybe I'll let them hold on to the next spawn and if that's not successful, I'll try pulling the eggs.

I don't know whether adoketas will be better in which setup. However, I find that apistos like many other cichlids tend to be more successful with the 2nd and subsequent spawnings. Also in most species I've bred only females take direct part in protection of the fry. Some males can be aggressive and try to eat fry or eggs while others will just mind their own business.

[mobile2007]

Actually regarding the setup, i am referring to some articles on web stating that the eggs will only be hatched in very soft RO water. Also, the question of whether farm-bred will be more easier or adapted to the home water.

Anyway, i dont have any adoketa on hand, but it is always good to prepare myself for any future pair.

Strange, 2,3 years back, i saw one pair of adoketa at biotope. The color was very strong and the strip was very prominent ( but the price also , $800 i think), prompting one's desire to buy . Nowadays, i saw those in LFS, they dont seems to be that fantastic ?

Maybe I'll let them hold on to the next spawn and if that's not successful, I'll try pulling the eggs.

I don't know whether adoketas will be better in which setup. However, I find that apistos like many other cichlids tend to be more successful with the 2nd and subsequent spawnings. Also in most species I've bred only females take direct part in protection of the fry. Some males can be aggressive and try to eat fry or eggs while others will just mind their own business.

[doppelbanddwarf]

Their colouratin varies with mood much like apistogamma. The coloration shows when aggressive. Breeding coloration is the most striking. In neutral mood they are almost a dull gray. My dad says they look like common tilapias. I still remember that pair was bought by one of the aq members.

[Sinubux]

I think we should also take note that different countries' water source is different, therefore even we try to replicate the exact water parameter reading, the trace elements in their water is totally different from ours.

[stormhawk]

Apparently, these fish need water with low hardness for successful hatching. Which means that keeping the TDS as low as possible might be crucial, so using distilled water to top up or as water change might be a good thing to do. Reference as below:

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile...adoketa&id=802

[mobile2007]

Hmm, perhaps it's good to invest in a DI water filter. For 60l 2 ft tank, 15 to 20% water change will be 12 litres. Depending on which brand of distilled water used, cost can be $1 per litre.

[doppelbanddwarf]

Anyone know how much these DI filters roughly cost?

[apisto31]

If you can DIY a Rainwater harvesting system in such a way that it wont b a killer litter, this would be our best bet. I believe some new HDB flats now at Punggol have this rainwater collection system though im not sure how is it being distributed to the occupants.

[Blue Whale]

If you can DIY a Rainwater harvesting system in such a way that it wont b a killer litter, this would be our best bet. I believe some new HDB flats now at Punggol have this rainwater collection system though im not sure how is it being distributed to the occupants.

Not advisable to collect rain water in Singapore. The current pollution cloud is heavier, when it rains, it is forming acidic water. The smoke comes from the Northern Thailand Forest fire. Toxicity is estimated 13times more toxic than Normal Urbanised area due to burning of fuel, petrol, and other toxic chemicals. Those with ponds should pay close attention to the pond water as well.

[stormhawk]

What Whale just said is quite true. You're better off using distilled water instead of investing on a RO/DI unit. Get those Life brand in bigger bottles from the supermarkets and store them somewhere safe.

[mobile2007]

I think in arofanatics someone( i think gabriel ?? ) is selling those 3 stage water cannisters, which you can load the cannister with resin filter. Probably overall will cost you hundred over to two hundreds.

[apisto31]

Until the fishes in the pond start dying, then we will have an evidence Singapore rainwater is harmful to fish.
I know bros who did that before and I myself have tried it without fatality. But of course not during the Northern Thailand Forest fire nor the Pinatubo volcano eruption. Though I didn't pursue as I find it troublesome collecting directly from the rain drops and due to storage limitation. And yes, my Macmasteri bred in 1 footer tank with pure rainwater and carbon filtration.

[doppelbanddwarf]

For me collecting rainwater is too much of a hassle. Besides my parents will kill me even before the rainwater has a chance to kill my fishes.
I'll probably do some carrying of water from the supermarket after my exams.And shift them to a 2ft tank.

[Aquanoob]

Chongyu, I am in Sembawang and I can help you to carry more distilled water back home if you allow me to take a few look at the Adekota and any other apisto you have. Contact me when you are buying the distilled water. NTUC sometimes have promotion for the Life distilled water at 95cts for 2 bottles.