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    Used the nutrafin cycle biological supplement. Claims to be able to introduce fish immediately. Now fishes gasping for air at surface of water. HELP HELP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xksinz View Post
    Used the nutrafin cycle biological supplement. Claims to be able to introduce fish immediately. Now fishes gasping for air at surface of water. HELP HELP!
    Good luck and hope your fish survive the ordeal hmm did you add antichlorine to treat your water??? i know that sign mean your water likely is not treated with anti chlorine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avex30 View Post
    Good luck and hope your fish survive the ordeal hmm did you add antichlorine to treat your water??? i know that sign mean your water likely is not treated with anti chlorine.
    Thank you for replying. I used distilled water plus antichlorine. I even pour around half a mug of it cos i read somewhere overdose wont hurt. Unfortunately, one puffer had passed away. Is there anything else i can do?

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    Re: Cycling tank

    change water, that should help reduce ammonia level but don't forget to put anticlorine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xksinz View Post
    Used the nutrafin cycle biological supplement. Claims to be able to introduce fish immediately. Now fishes gasping for air at surface of water. HELP HELP!
    Hello, whoever teach you that can throw him down from 6th storey.

    Nutrafin Cycle is to establish the biological environment, the one that is for Dechlorination is Aqua Plus. You can skip the waste control because that is best done via filter.
    http://www.hagen.com/uk/aquatic/nutr...nditioning.cfm
    Do read up on the respective product. With your smartphone around, can always google search whilst on the go.

    You have just pickup what many fish keepers used to do. See cute fish buy back without understanding them. Puffer fish bite is toxic and can paralyse fishes such as tetra. Did you know a full grown puffer fish is even bigger than a basket ball? It can swim along sharks and sharks won't even consider eating them. Puffer fish have teeth as sharp as the shark. In your case, most likely the puffer fish die of hunger/water parameter issues.

    Tanks need to be cycled properly before you can introduce fishes, if you have not done enough homework, your fish will be dead one by one. For air, you can introduce air pump for the time being. Suggest you move the fish somewhere else with filter and air pump. Correct the main tank properly before you introduce the fish in again.

    If you need to read up the Nitrate portion, go ahead. It is important that you learnt there is no shortcut. There is a reason why people refer this hobby as a patience game. You already know you made a bad move, if you need to cry, you better recover fast! The fish needs you to stay alive. To each a different learning curve. What you learn now might help you in your life later as well. Bad lesson, remember it, and it will guide you well into the future. Meantime, there is the Beginners' Corner, Fish Care, Nutrition and Water Management for you to learn and read up.
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    Re: Cycling tank

    use anti chlorine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xksinz View Post
    Thank you for replying. I used distilled water plus antichlorine. I even pour around half a mug of it cos i read somewhere overdose wont hurt. Unfortunately, one puffer had passed away. Is there anything else i can do?
    Hi it depend on the branding and label there are some brand I came across advising not to overdose. Distill water meaning you setup with distill water completely? Actually distill water is widely use nowadays but if you use distill to startup you might require to find out the parameter of your fishes etc. and adjust it accordingly before introducing Lifestock. My understanding and testing of distill water ph range 6.5-7 gh I take it as zero Tds is just 10 okie to consume not okie to use direct with Lifestock without adjusting to their parameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avex30 View Post
    Hi it depend on the branding and label there are some brand I came across advising not to overdose. Distill water meaning you setup with distill water completely? Actually distill water is widely use nowadays but if you use distill to startup you might require to find out the parameter of your fishes etc. and adjust it accordingly before introducing Lifestock. My understanding and testing of distill water ph range 6.5-7 gh I take it as zero Tds is just 10 okie to consume not okie to use direct with Lifestock without adjusting to their parameter.
    We still do not know whether Xksinz knows how to measure water parameter (as in got Chemistry background or not). The best thing now is to let the forumers know which area he lives and see if there is a bro nearby bring some test kits to test the water parameters and help him out.

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    If the main tank is not ready, where can he put the fish which is already bought earlier, assuming he does not have any cycled water to spare, but only have some raw aged water?
    LIFE IS UNBEARABLE WITHOUT A FISH TANK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    If the main tank is not ready, where can he put the fish which is already bought earlier, assuming he does not have any cycled water to spare, but only have some raw aged water?
    Buy a plastic turtle tank lor. Cheap cheap. I do not think you want to use a pail which you have been using for washing clothes for it. turtle tank easier to do fish maintenance as well for the time being. Anyway a GEX L will cost you $18 only....not really a lot. He can use distil water for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    If the main tank is not ready, where can he put the fish which is already bought earlier, assuming he does not have any cycled water to spare, but only have some raw aged water?
    There is no other alternative but to adjust his parameter to his fishes. If he have aged water assuming now they are from tap adding a airstone shouldnt be able to make is a temporary holding place while he adjust and prepare use those market commercial available liquid BB to quicken cycling. Assuming again he do not have soil just a bear tank. No chilling BB should generate relatively much faster. Although I have use that brand Ts mention before which Er... Gave me doubt also brand like microbe-lift cycling kits etc. I didn't find them every much useful. But since now there is no turning back than I can only say push on. Or ts can give or sell away his exist Lifestock and than spend time cycling his setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avex30 View Post
    There is no other alternative but to adjust his parameter to his fishes. If he have aged water assuming now they are from tap adding a airstone shouldnt be able to make is a temporary holding place while he adjust and prepare use those market commercial available liquid BB to quicken cycling. Assuming again he do not have soil just a bear tank. No chilling BB should generate relatively much faster. Although I have use that brand Ts mention before which Er... Gave me doubt also brand like microbe-lift cycling kits etc. I didn't find them every much useful. But since now there is no turning back than I can only say push on. Or ts can give or sell away his exist Lifestock and than spend time cycling his setup.
    Let him try, he need to fulfil his learning curve as we all do.

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    Re: Cycling tank

    Quote Originally Posted by avex30 View Post
    There is no other alternative but to adjust his parameter to his fishes. If he have aged water assuming now they are from tap adding a airstone shouldnt be able to make is a temporary holding place while he adjust and prepare use those market commercial available liquid BB to quicken cycling. Assuming again he do not have soil just a bear tank. No chilling BB should generate relatively much faster. Although I have use that brand Ts mention before which Er... Gave me doubt also brand like microbe-lift cycling kits etc. I didn't find them every much useful. But since now there is no turning back than I can only say push on. Or ts can give or sell away his exist Lifestock and than spend time cycling his setup.
    Think best for him do water change and keep the fish and do normal cycling.
    He only have 2 posts so far, better wait for him to reply. Else he see the wall of post.
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    Thank you all for replying. Yes im pretty new at this. I read articles on setting up tank. But when i saw the biological starter that claims can introduce fish immediately, i thought technology has improved. So i took a shortcut. Sadly, it didnt work.

    I bought a Seachem solution that can remove chlorine chlorimine nitrates ammonia. My fish stop gasping for air at the surface of water.

    Its a good learning experience. Served as a warning too for newbies not to take shortcut to cycle tank.

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    Just came back and was checking out my tank. There seems to be a white powdery substance on my moss balls, tank glass and on the filter pipes. Is it a cause for concern? Should i just give away my livestock and restart the tank? And my last remaining puffer is having white spots.

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    Hi bro, can you take some pictures for us? That would help tremendously.

    The white spots on fish are normally caused by ich. Its a parasite. Very common and should be treated. But pictures will determine whether it is for sure ich.

    Don't worry. We all make mistakes. I did the same mistakes too when I first started.
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    Those advanced products are not good for beginners to start with. They are meant more for those who already have extensive experience in fish-keeping and aquacraft. For a beginner, he/she would not understand the many consequences of certain actions, many of which do not make sense to the untrained.

    So this is why it is absolutely necesssary for any beginner, or indeed also those who have once given up the hobby in disappointment to first master and internalise the basics of water biology, namely water cycling and related knowledge. Otherwise, a lot of money can be wasted, mostly in buying expensive fish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xksinz View Post
    Thank you all for replying. Yes im pretty new at this. I read articles on setting up tank. But when i saw the biological starter that claims can introduce fish immediately, i thought technology has improved. So i took a shortcut. Sadly, it didnt work.

    I bought a Seachem solution that can remove chlorine chlorimine nitrates ammonia. My fish stop gasping for air at the surface of water.

    Its a good learning experience. Served as a warning too for newbies not to take shortcut to cycle tank.
    LIFE IS UNBEARABLE WITHOUT A FISH TANK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSGenesis View Post
    Hi bro, can you take some pictures for us? That would help tremendously.

    The white spots on fish are normally caused by ich. Its a parasite. Very common and should be treated. But pictures will determine whether it is for sure ich.

    Don't worry. We all make mistakes. I did the same mistakes too when I first started.
    Sure. Here are the photos.

    IMG_1823.jpgIMG_1824.jpg

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    Hi. Just an update. My tank is ok now! Happy fishes. And my crayfish just molted. Bought some snails for the puffer and he is munching away happily. Only problem now is the red claw crab. He survived the cycling phase but is not doing well cos he belongs to brackish water. Any bros wanna adopt?

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    Hi, may I know how many fishes you added in yr tank on the 1st day when u setup yr tank and how long is your tank now ?

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