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    2 feet tank setup questions

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    Hi, I hope to clarify some stuffs before I go buy these stuffs.

    I already got a 2 feet five plan tank and want to keep crs in future. Would be using ADA Aquasoil 9L for $38. As recxomended by seniors here.
    2 ft T5 lighting. If I'm not wrong I read that T5 is good for crs as doesn't produce heat? Need clarification.
    No co2 injection except tablets.
    Filter still unclear. Was going to get eheim canister filter classic 150. Saw $70 plus at Seaview if I'm not wrong. Unsure as I am unfamiliar with using canister filter and read that shrimps get sucked in to the filter. Also some mentioned experts using only sponge filter.

    Intend to do scape using rocks and HG and HC. Don't intend to put moss as the colors I feel doesn't blend in. Dark green against HC green.
    And does crs get affected by the scape of the tank? Cause I usually see people crs tanks quite normal scape. Eg dw, moss. I intend to use dry start method for a iwagumi setup. Please advise on this so that I can think of another scape.

    As for the filter also pls advise. Classic 150. According to their website. Not sure what model. And also advise me what media should I use.

    Hope u bros can help me out. Sorry for the long post and many questions. Thank you.

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    If you wants to make it a scape tank, dont make it a crs tank.

    How are you going to chill the tank?

    HC is light/co2 demanding plant. No point getting co2 tablet for them.

    T5 lights will heat up the tank water.

    Rock scape will increase your gH and in turn affect the crs.

    Hopefully you will reconsider which way you wants your tank to be

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    For CRS, you better have chiller.
    All light will heat up water, only LED does not although still producing heat at the back.
    HC need lots of CO2, CO2 tablet does not really work.

    Bellow picture is my attempt growing HC only with excel. It does not grow but does not die either. I fed up and use yeast CO2 instead
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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    I'm using a cooling fan in the day. And in the night there is aircon. From my previous tank. Temperature doesn't go above 26C. Usually 24C-26C.
    Can u advise me what light to use that wouldn't heat up the water? And roughly the cost?

    And if I don't use rock scape, will scraping with dw reduce the ph even lower?

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    I heard from a bro here that u are good with crs and also on some threads u were mentioned. Lol. Can u advise me on the filter too?

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    If you intend to use the ADA soil, your PH will be consider very low. You might even need to buffer the PH slightly higher.

    As for cooling fan, it might work and your CRS might be able to survive but then you might not be able to provide an ideal water parameters for them to breed or attain nice colors.

    Above are just my noob views as I'm still trying to learn from all seniors.

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Isn't the temperature 24-26 ideal for crs? My room is quite cooling plus the aircon even though turn on from night to morning only, during the day the room still remains cool. The cooling fan I have is dymax w8. I got the one which was most powerful. And is just a back up that I turn on only during the day to maintain the temperature of 24-25.

    Hmm.. Still very confused lol.

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Oh okay shadow. I'll go check out LED Lights then. Thanks!

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    fan is not recommended because it will evaporates the water very fast and affects the water parameter.

    yes, it is cooling these few month, wait till the heat wave come. you might get 30-32 degree room temperature.

    these are the standard item i will ask a newbie to get for CRS setup

    2x1x1 feet tank minimum
    600-900 lph flowrate external canister
    1/10 horse power chiller
    2 feet up brand led light
    new ada soil ( cycle for 1.5 months )
    rain bar / stainless steel mesh inlet
    moss on driftwood
    liquid test kits

    did i miss out anything? XD
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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Tank size and liquid test kits got them.
    No money no chiller. Sorry la very poor. Lol. still studying.
    May I ask how the fan and water evaporation affects the water parameters?
    ADA soil I will be getting
    Will get the light u mentioned as well
    Canister filter can get too
    Drift wood have already as well. Will be getting moss too.

    Seems like sponge filter is also quite highly recommended. How is the maintainece like? Weekly???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhwr View Post
    Tank size and liquid test kits got them.
    No money no chiller. Sorry la very poor. Lol. still studying.
    May I ask how the fan and water evaporation affects the water parameters?
    ADA soil I will be getting
    Will get the light u mentioned as well
    Canister filter can get too
    Drift wood have already as well. Will be getting moss too.

    Seems like sponge filter is also quite highly recommended. How is the maintainece like? Weekly???
    If that is the case, then keep RCS instead

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    RCS cherry shrimps colour vs CRS shrimps red n white lol

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhwr View Post
    May I ask how the fan and water evaporation affects the water parameters?
    Fan cooling water by evaporation, only water that evaporate other mineral stay in your tank and every time you top-up, you add mineral to your tank unless you use RO water to top up.
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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhwr View Post
    RCS cherry shrimps colour vs CRS shrimps red n white lol
    If you can't afford a LV bag, don't buy one if you have to exhaust your savings.
    As like you said you are a student, you should spend within your means.
    If you can afford CRS, why not? But if you can't you can always stick to RCS, looks duller but still, you can learn alot from RCS and maybe in future when you can afford CRS, you will be more experience and successful in rearing them.

    No hard feelings bro just sharing my thoughts.
    Besides you should try rearing CRS is way harder than rearing RCS.
    Scrimping and saving won't give your shrimps the best environment which they need, why not start with RCS and save up for your CRS?

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    Not say cannot keep. But keeping is harder plus they might not be as pretty.

    The evaporated water will leave minerals as stated by robert. Will cause Gh Ph to fluctuate.
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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    What about food for the shrimps?



    Quote Originally Posted by eviltrain View Post
    fan is not recommended because it will evaporates the water very fast and affects the water parameter.

    yes, it is cooling these few month, wait till the heat wave come. you might get 30-32 degree room temperature.

    these are the standard item i will ask a newbie to get for CRS setup

    2x1x1 feet tank minimum
    600-900 lph flowrate external canister
    1/10 horse power chiller
    2 feet up brand led light
    new ada soil ( cycle for 1.5 months )
    rain bar / stainless steel mesh inlet
    moss on driftwood
    liquid test kits

    did i miss out anything? XD

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Hmmm okay.. Topping up water with distilled water also can right? And weekly 20% WC with aged dechlorinated water shouldn't be a problem with the mineral problem right?

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    Hi,

    Slowly upgrade if no money buy chiller. Many keepers using distilled water to topup. Maybe they can intro you a cheap source.
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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    alamak! still different. evaporation only happens with water, the minerals would not evaporate. so now when you top up with aged tap water, it also contain minerals. so now u got "more" minerals in your tank ? its hard to keep your minerals in check using a fan. that is why crs breeders use chiller.

    Low tech tank FTW!

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    Re: 2 feet tank setup questions

    Quote Originally Posted by darrentyl View Post
    What about food for the shrimps?

    too many brands to choose from liao. hehehe
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