Ceramic ring raising PH?

**SeVenZ** · 20th Mar 2012, 02:39

been reading on ceramic rings and realized the one i am using ANS sinopore raises PH based on a guy experience. I do not have a ph tester. so im creating a thread here to ask if any one else uses this brand and found that it is not inert?

maybe can consolidate a list of media that actually buffer ph.

Also, lava rocks are suppose to be inert right? might have to get a ph test kit soon

**stormhawk** · 20th Mar 2012, 04:09

Certain brands of ceramic rings will cause the pH levels to rise. This depends on what materials they are made from. I have no idea which brands affect pH as much though.

**reiner09** · 20th Mar 2012, 09:16

Base in a thread on another forum..ans sinopore will raise ph..it is tested and proven

**Navanod** · 20th Mar 2012, 09:45

But it is also made from sintered glass, which should be inert.

**reiner09** · 20th Mar 2012, 10:01

Apparently base in another thread in another forum..they also thought ans sinopore is inert ,however upon testing by soaking it just in tap water of 7.5 ph it raised to ph 9 in 6hrs ..this test is repeated twice and the tester got the same results..more or less it is concluded that whatever that is written isnt really true ..

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**Navanod** · 20th Mar 2012, 10:48

Tap water?
Most tap water's pH will raise on its own as its high in dissolved CO2 out of the tap and the CO2 slowly escapes after being left to sit.
However, 7.5 to 9 is quite a jump...if the guy could do a control, i.e, tapwater without the CR, it'll validate the experiment.

**reiner09** · 20th Mar 2012, 11:40

I am not sure about that dissolve co2 in tapwater though because i didnt really notice much change in ph for my aged water (aged for a day) .. i am not sure if this is alright to post the links here, remove it if it isnt,but the thread i read from is here : http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=396749 ..do help me take a look at it..
It is posted about 3years ago..doubt i can contact the ts from that thread..

**reiner09** · 20th Mar 2012, 12:02

There are several users there that experienced the rise in ph..it could be due to poor quality control during the manufacture..judging from its' cheap pricing..i believe what you spent is what you get..i suppose it will be better to stay with the more reputable brands..

I don't mind doing the test after extracting those media from my canister and i will post the results real soon.

**Navanod** · 20th Mar 2012, 13:28

The powdered glass used for making the sintered rings may contain impurity. Who knows eh. But even so, washing & soaking the rings before use should work...

Let us know you findings bro

**SeVenZ** · 20th Mar 2012, 14:43

yep, i saw the thread on arofan too. That is why i posted this thread actually. Its because i'm using it in all my tanks but so far everything is fine, as i do not have a PH test kit, i didnt know. if my tank crashes some day, that would be the first culprit i guess?

**wongce** · 20th Mar 2012, 17:06

I got 1 pack in my tank, the ph 5 since 3 weeks ago. Maybe ada new is buffering the effect?? Anyone with extra Ans CR can confirm the rumour??

**SeVenZ** · 21st Mar 2012, 01:58

I dont really mind the ph so i didnt buy test kit to check. i dont breed shrimp. but i am trying to breed kribnensis and im using my left over ada soil in the tank. so the cr is actually helping me bring the ph up to an acceptable level i hope.

**stormhawk** · 21st Mar 2012, 13:04

Kribensis are fairly easy to spawn, especially tank-bred specimens.

As for this ANS Sinopore, it's likely that they might have problems with some batches like some other products.

**SeVenZ** · 21st Mar 2012, 13:24

Originally Posted by stormhawk

Kribensis are fairly easy to spawn, especially tank-bred specimens.

As for this ANS Sinopore, it's likely that they might have problems with some batches like some other products.

i get that but one big problem is i have 2 males and 3 females but it doesnt seem like they are pairing up. D:
lets just hope that the one tested has qc problems

**skier** · 24th Mar 2012, 18:25

Must be a difference between the $4 dollar packet of ceramic rings versus momotaro stuff where a kilo could be $50? How bout eheim ceramic rings? I am sure they won't cause the ph to rise. So if some companies can make poisonous baby food, of course some companies would also make ceramic rings which are fake. I believe no one's checking the actual material of all the rings.

**reiner09** · 25th Mar 2012, 00:11

ok after a test for about 3days..i concluded that ans CR will not cause ph changes. However the one that caused the Ph changes is another famous brand in the market. my ph hovered around 7.4-7.5 after i added the ans ceremic ring and left it alone for 3 days..there isn't much ph changes. however i added this other brand of media(another suspect) the ph initially drop due to the media being wet from my tank's water which dropped to around 7.0 but within that day it rised to 7.7 then right now it is 8.0 which is way higher than my initial ph from the tap( that remained constant for 3 days).Thus it is conclusive that it is this other media that cased the ph increase and not ans CR