advise needed for shrimp friendly fishes

[seudzar]

Hi Seniors, need some advise, currently I only have shrimps and shrimplets in my tank, however the tank has a lot of nematodes, i have already control the feeding to every alternate days, the population of nematodes did went down but it is still very irritating to see a couple of them wriggling around the tanks. I thinking of adding a couple of small fishes to have the nematodes population control but i worry that the fishes might eat my shrimplets. Is there any shrimplets friendly fishes around?

[Aquaguy]

octoclinus can be mixed with shrimps but im not sure whether they are effective in reducing your nematodes.

[Blue Whale]

I have some fish data for you.

Corydoras hasbrosus (35mm) - Shrimp might sometime looks bigger than them, but like oto, they like shrimp food as well, after a while, most people move these little cuties out of the tank because they attack shrimp just for the shrimp food.

Danio Fish - Because of their speed and size, most shrimp will hide from them. But no direct reports on Danio attacking shrimps. So whilst this is a good candidate, the activities of the shrimp would be reduced. Please read this thread.

Yeap, otocinlus is one of them but they will steal food from shrimps, since they like shrimp food most of the time. Most people uses this catfish. They don't grow big, they are pushy but doesn't bite shrimps.

[seudzar]

Thank you Aquaguy and Blue Whale for the advice... will read more on them... Thank you so much..!!

[morning breakfast eat]

I have no prob putting them w my neon tetras and harlequin rasboras

[hardric]

I have no prob putting them w my neon tetras and harlequin rasboras

These fish are no issue with shrimps. They will eat shrimplets. There are probably no 100% safe fish with shrimp except for ottos. But you can help by putting them in heavily planted tanks with lots of hiding places.

[twkian]

shrimps make good food for all fishes

[Blue Whale]

Scarlet Badis should be another good candidate. Scarlet will hide in heavily planted tank. Looking like ah blur, it is very very cute. People use scarlet together with oto with Cherry Shrimp more often. Can use uncle google to search for more info.

[diazman]

Scarlet Badis should be another good candidate. Scarlet will hide in heavily planted tank. Looking like ah blur, it is very very cute. People use scarlet together with oto with Cherry Shrimp more often. Can use uncle google to search for more info.

I've kept ember tetra, oto, rasbora brigittae with shrimps. But so far, after a while with them, usually the fish will just attack shrimps to steal thier food

[Blue Whale]

I've kept ember tetra, oto, rasbora brigittae with shrimps. But so far, after a while with them, usually the fish will just attack shrimps to steal thier food

One day bro, I am going to poison you with some shrimp tanks...heh...just waiting for infra to get ready then I can start tank cycling.

[avex30]

What is main priority?? To have fishes or shrimps which is more important in your tanks? Your have both if you're keep Sakura,firered etc with lot of hiding place.

If you intend to keep Crs etc let me ask you this what is the point 10-12 for a sss pattern shrimp just to have it hidin most of the time? Fishes and shrimps combi never work well either your shrimps is always hiding or you will find your population for shrimp not really healthy.

Oto - contribute more crap to tank than shrimp,snatch food, swim like a freak less bulldozer shocking shrimps and knocking into them
Tetra - if you have a school of them I would for shrimplet get nib by them. It goes the same rasbora.

The rest is etc etc. all boil down to what you want fishes swimming happily or shrimps feeding happily.

You might want to consider Yamato as they got bigger size and snatch food from fishes.

[felix_fx2]

These fish are no issue with shrimps. They will eat shrimplets. There are probably no 100% safe fish with shrimp except for ottos. But you can help by putting them in heavily planted tanks with lots of hiding places.

Eating shrimplet is not good... that's a big issue to some
ottos are reckless when they get scared...

[Blue Whale]

What is main priority?? To have fishes or shrimps which is more important in your tanks? Your have both if you're keep Sakura,firered etc with lot of hiding place.

If you intend to keep Crs etc let me ask you this what is the point 10-12 for a sss pattern shrimp just to have it hidin most of the time? Fishes and shrimps combi never work well either your shrimps is always hiding or you will find your population for shrimp not really healthy.

Oto - contribute more crap to tank than shrimp,snatch food, swim like a freak less bulldozer shocking shrimps and knocking into them
Tetra - if you have a school of them I would for shrimplet get nib by them. It goes the same rasbora.

The rest is etc etc. all boil down to what you want fishes swimming happily or shrimps feeding happily.

You might want to consider Yamato as they got bigger size and snatch food from fishes.

Of course the lead actor in a shrimp tank is Shrimp. But what is your point of view? Am I right to say that you favour a pure shrimp tank?

[seudzar]

What is main priority?? To have fishes or shrimps which is more important in your tanks? Your have both if you're keep Sakura,firered etc with lot of hiding place.

If you intend to keep Crs etc let me ask you this what is the point 10-12 for a sss pattern shrimp just to have it hidin most of the time? Fishes and shrimps combi never work well either your shrimps is always hiding or you will find your population for shrimp not really healthy.

Oto - contribute more crap to tank than shrimp,snatch food, swim like a freak less bulldozer shocking shrimps and knocking into them
Tetra - if you have a school of them I would for shrimplet get nib by them. It goes the same rasbora.

The rest is etc etc. all boil down to what you want fishes swimming happily or shrimps feeding happily.

You might want to consider Yamato as they got bigger size and snatch food from fishes.

Priority is the shrimplets and the shrimps... the purpose of the fishes is to keep the nematodes population under good control. As i have stated in my first post. I looking for fishes that can live peacefully with shrimplets and shrimps and keep the nematodes population under good control. I know control feeding on the shrimps will reduce nematodes population but i just see nematodes population is quite big and growing bigger, the shrimps now are fighting for food whenever i feed them.

[Blue Whale]

Priority is the shrimplets and the shrimps... the purpose of the fishes is to keep the nematodes population under good control. As i have stated in my first post. I looking for fishes that can live peacefully with shrimplets and shrimps and keep the nematodes population under good control. I know control feeding on the shrimps will reduce nematodes population but i just see nematodes population is quite big and growing bigger, the shrimps now are fighting for food whenever i feed them.

I guess it is not avoidable. What Avex30 said makes sense. But for people who have kept fish, having fish is....like habit. I would want a diverse community rather than just one plain tank with shrimps. GC just came a batch of Corydoras hastatus, and Corydoras habrosus. Just note that if you intro fishes, the likelihood of them snatching food from shrimps is there. May not help in nematodes or may help if they are hungry. You also can consider scarlet darios, I found only one batch at Aquastar last friday night. If you want to buy it, better go early for the two respective locations. You want good tankmates, you need to travel. GC also have otos, several people went in and purchase them including our dear moderator Don.

Link source: http://www.shrimpnow.com/mygallery/s...hp?i=3530&c=43
Picture showing Cherry Shrimp & Corydoras Habrosus

[felix_fx2]

Priority is the shrimplets and the shrimps... the purpose of the fishes is to keep the nematodes population under good control. As i have stated in my first post. I looking for fishes that can live peacefully with shrimplets and shrimps and keep the nematodes population under good control. I know control feeding on the shrimps will reduce nematodes population but i just see nematodes population is quite big and growing bigger, the shrimps now are fighting for food whenever i feed them.

No matter how, the fish you introduce will pose threat to shrimplets as their nearer to bite size.
Try to find the smaller fishes, like boraras brigittae, young neon tetras.

I got boraras brigittae at the recommendation of a friend, to put inside my low tech cherries tank. Alot of shrimplets present, and their not much bigger then adult cherries
So far so good i would say, Bought them from that aquarium Y618.

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile...cies=brigittae

[seudzar]

Thank you very much Blue Whale and Felix for your advice..!! Will definitely consider.

[avex30]

Of course the lead actor in a shrimp tank is Shrimp. But what is your point of view? Am I right to say that you favour a pure shrimp tank?

My point of view is they don't mix well..... Just on saturday alone i was sitting infront of my 2ft garden with fire red and 1 neon tetra which i have shifted in from my vivarium setup. I was there with itcy hand bending SS wire (learn from uncle Ron). I saw with my own eyes the neon tetra attack shrimplet with my own eyes. That is my point and i have to remove the bugger into a betta container since it is alone with a small filter.

[felix_fx2]

My point of view is they don't mix well..... Just on saturday alone i was sitting infront of my 2ft garden with fire red and 1 neon tetra which i have shifted in from my vivarium setup. I was there with itcy hand bending SS wire (learn from uncle Ron). I saw with my own eyes the neon tetra attack shrimplet with my own eyes. That is my point and i have to remove the bugger into a betta container since it is alone with a small filter.

Very normal to see hungry neon disturb shrimplet. Some to the extent of killing and eating it.
Common sight to me, as my cherries/Sakura share my 3 feet. Shrimplet only have erm 1-2, the not so lucky ones got eaten or died.

[avex30]

Very normal to see hungry neon disturb shrimplet. Some to the extent of killing and eating it.
Common sight to me, as my cherries/Sakura share my 3 feet. Shrimplet only have erm 1-2, the not so lucky ones got eaten or died.

Yea that why i asking TS what is his priority to keep beautiful shrimps or fishes