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    Re: Tale of a farmer

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    Basic Calculation
    71" x 4
    40" x 16
    16" x 4
    Planks x 6 + 2 x leftover planks.
    96 bolts and nuts (so getting 1 box of 100)
    32 Triangle Fastener.
    About 3 metal holders across.
    4 rubber shoes for the bottom.
    Dimension is viewed in inches.

    Tentatively this will be for Phase I. Estimated Cost at $150 or so. Waiting for Exact Price calculation tomorrow night.

    ^o^/ Any suggestions for colors? pink? My room color is light purple
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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    You making server rack?
    Your using AutoCad or what software.... looks more like server rack or wardrobe.
    IMO should show the foundation elements eg, the main pillars/beams and not push a boxed look.. unless you really have no opening

    something like the one below if you include the tanks.


    or alternative. just the stand/rack


    Planks x 6 + 2 x leftover planks.
    96 bolts and nuts (so getting 1 box of 100)
    32 Triangle Fastener.
    Planks, very important part your missing out, material.
    Nuts & bolts: no comment.
    Triangle Fastener: no comment.

    Why you never consider using those angle slotted bars used in provision shops then put a plywood plank on top. not the beauty but rather you can change height with much ease.



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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    I lazy, so used powerpoint to do quick and dirty job. planks no issue. 8ft one piece cut to my size at factory.

    angle slotted bar, what is that?

    slight boxing only. If operating 12 lights, I need to plan timer switch properly. one tier for farming but might change my mind. In breeding capacity, no issue, need to find cloth.

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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    actually I used hand to sketch. made all calculations. maybe this thread concentrate on farming first. building up of rack in preparation later, might be multi-topical type.

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    Felix, the rack you show is very small. My current design can hold 3x 1ft tanks with space to negotiate.

    On with the farmer's story but he is unable to attach further pictures due to quota limit.

    M2 and M3 are both the taller tubs, both HC as well.

    M2 substrate is Garden Soil.
    M3 substrate is Organic Soil.
    Both kept at room temperature with air pockets like M1.

    Further down on the racks are Golden Nana, Mini Nana, Aqua Fern, and un-named type of unidentified plants. Follow by some algae water. Brownish algae has already started forming at the bottom of the smaller tub, so in fact, I am having 1 culture only at this point of time. I might expand it but it depends on the rack development.

    Based on current confirmation, the rack is $180 flat. Expecting electrical works to commence after erecting the rack and painted it. This would most likely bring the cost up to $300, excluding any fan fixtures. If I run my sona fan on it, it might worth getting other fans in. A 90W powerful fan. With that I end this thread with ease. : )

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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Whale View Post
    Felix, the rack you show is very small. My current design can hold 3x 1ft tanks with space to negotiate.

    On with the farmer's story but he is unable to attach further pictures due to quota limit.

    M2 and M3 are both the taller tubs, both HC as well.

    M2 substrate is Garden Soil.
    M3 substrate is Organic Soil.
    Both kept at room temperature with air pockets like M1.

    Further down on the racks are Golden Nana, Mini Nana, Aqua Fern, and un-named type of unidentified plants. Follow by some algae water. Brownish algae has already started forming at the bottom of the smaller tub, so in fact, I am having 1 culture only at this point of time. I might expand it but it depends on the rack development.

    Based on current confirmation, the rack is $180 flat. Expecting electrical works to commence after erecting the rack and painted it. This would most likely bring the cost up to $300, excluding any fan fixtures. If I run my sona fan on it, it might worth getting other fans in. A 90W powerful fan. With that I end this thread with ease. : )
    1: As a demonstration, POC not actual product. Just show you how it will be easier for others to see what you have transcribed in your head.
    2: The internal storage i'll really use for some items, since i am using photobucket/imageshack to link pictures and seldom store them locally. (i use that often for work also, another account thou.)
    3: These type of things never ask eddy to advise, he has much experience to offer.

    @Don, seems like a great freeware to share at work again
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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Nice rack there. I was just thinking of building a rack like this one with angle-iron. Does the shop cut the angle iron into pieces for you?
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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    Nice rack there. I was just thinking of building a rack like this one with angle-iron. Does the shop cut the angle iron into pieces for you?
    Depend on shop, the hardware shop near my place does but you need to tell uncle each how long if not if you leave him to guage... haha you can guess all the funny things...
    But no harm check with your local hardware shop, you might want to buy those triangle braces if alot of load is intended. They will help hold thing together.
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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Thank you. I will work out the actual dimensions for the cutting. I used to be quite DIY (like Blue Whale) too .
    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Depend on shop, the hardware shop near my place does but you need to tell uncle each how long if not if you leave him to guage... haha you can guess all the funny things...
    But no harm check with your local hardware shop, you might want to buy those triangle braces if alot of load is intended. They will help hold thing together.
    LIFE IS UNBEARABLE WITHOUT A FISH TANK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    1: As a demonstration, POC not actual product. Just show you how it will be easier for others to see what you have transcribed in your head.
    2: The internal storage i'll really use for some items, since i am using photobucket/imageshack to link pictures and seldom store them locally. (i use that often for work also, another account thou.)
    3: These type of things never ask eddy to advise, he has much experience to offer.

    @Don, seems like a great freeware to share at work again
    Can lah...I got Adobe Photoshop, Adobe CS, 3D Home Design, etc. I don't wanna to be too punchy. So using commoner's software to do it. Hee.
    Yeap...as advice, since #1, where do you think those photo comes from ^^Y Maybe I need to reupload..hassle.
    Eddie ah...did crossed my mind, but maybe not at this stage. Something else in mind...hee. shhh....more poison coming soon.

    In fact, this rack was quickly came up together with the shop people, as I have previous design one rack for DIY solar project but they cannot deliver so project got shelved for future. ^^Y Since i just fell into drain just now...think I better rest early and let the body recover a bit. Nothing serious, just some scratches here and there on the left arm and left foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    Thank you. I will work out the actual dimensions for the cutting. I used to be quite DIY (like Blue Whale) too .
    Good thumbs up wait for your pictures then

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Whale View Post
    Can lah...I got Adobe Photoshop, Adobe CS, 3D Home Design, etc. I don't wanna to be too punchy. So using commoner's software to do it. Hee.
    Yeap...as advice, since #1, where do you think those photo comes from ^^Y Maybe I need to reupload..hassle.
    Eddie ah...did crossed my mind, but maybe not at this stage. Something else in mind...hee. shhh....more poison coming soon.

    In fact, this rack was quickly came up together with the shop people, as I have previous design one rack for DIY solar project but they cannot deliver so project got shelved for future. ^^Y Since i just fell into drain just now...think I better rest early and let the body recover a bit. Nothing serious, just some scratches here and there on the left arm and left foot.
    Picture 1? MS paint... IMO that level is not hard at all. After all i did alot of jpeg how to(s) at work and send colleagues.
    Honestly, do some research 1st since you mention they quote but cannot deliver... (Commit but cannot deliver = Pilot) i rather your ideas come to life then go in the abyss.
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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    Good thumbs up wait for your pictures then


    Picture 1? MS paint... IMO that level is not hard at all. After all i did alot of jpeg how to(s) at work and send colleagues.
    Honestly, do some research 1st since you mention they quote but cannot deliver... (Commit but cannot deliver = Pilot) i rather your ideas come to life then go in the abyss.
    This is like the 5th attempt if include previous ones. Idea of DIY is that average people can do it too using common materials available to us. Logistic fault is not design fault. do not give yourself unnecessary pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Whale View Post
    This is like the 5th attempt if include previous ones. Idea of DIY is that average people can do it too using common materials available to us. Logistic fault is not design fault. do not give yourself unnecessary pressure
    So the shop pilot or they don't sell what you want to use? Since you say Logistic issue.

    So far the hardware shops I visit I never order stuff, just take from shelf or ask uncle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    So the shop pilot or they don't sell what you want to use? Since you say Logistic issue.
    In previous episodes:
    They ordered a fixed set. I waited for the deliveryman at designated date, never arrive.
    Following week, he came without calling, I not in, he never call.
    Then I told the shop just deliver to the shop, I will pickup from there, never come.
    So I cancelled the order.

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_fx2 View Post
    So far the hardware shops I visit I never order stuff, just take from shelf or ask uncle.
    For the metal piece, it's 3m long, hence it has to be cut to size.
    For the Wooden Plank, it is 8m by 4m, 1 cut $1. Hence to be cut to size as well, with additional planks for future planning/replacement. So instead of just 4pieces, it is cut to 6 same sized pieces and 2 left over pieces.

    In terms of weight, the triangle fasteners are for the corners, instead of the regular 2 bolts and nuts, this fastener will fasten 3 sides thus giving more holding strength.

    From past experience of building this kinda rack, it is not water proof. Hence the order of waterproof wooden plank just means extra lamination. But I will need to build the first section to determine if the plank can be painted separate from the Rack. My last build on this was a rack 1.5m tall and 1.2m tall, 2 tier step rack for potting plants. A design that is not so-straight-forward type.

    The flexibility of this current rack design is that per tier you can plan in any of the following combo:
    4 x 250mm tanks
    3 x 1ft tanks
    1 x 2ft tank + 1 x 1ft tank
    1 x 3ft tank

    Consider top down to bottom, there is a total 4 tiers altogether, height adjustable at will at any point of time.

    I am planning breeding space as well as different types of tanks altogether. I am still thinking whether to centralise the Power sockets to one of the planks to the side of the rack or to put them seperately on each tier. Based on current design, a minimum of 10-12 lights would be required of which each will be on the same or different timer(s).

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    No matter what design the rack is, or how simple, the triangular stabilisers are a very important part, especially for heavy loads. If these are ommitted it is easy for the whole assembly to collapse to one side when pushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    No matter what design the rack is, or how simple, the triangular stabilisers are a very important part, especially for heavy loads. If these are ommitted it is easy for the whole assembly to collapse to one side when pushed.
    This I can imagine it. Metal totally bend on one side. tilted on the other.

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    Re: Tale of a farmer

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Whale View Post
    In previous episodes:
    They ordered a fixed set. I waited for the deliveryman at designated date, never arrive.
    Following week, he came without calling, I not in, he never call.
    Then I told the shop just deliver to the shop, I will pickup from there, never come.
    So I cancelled the order.
    I will stop ordering from them, 2 pilot cases in a row... and delivery non timed delivery.

    Quote Originally Posted by tetrakid View Post
    No matter what design the rack is, or how simple, the triangular stabilisers are a very important part, especially for heavy loads. If these are ommitted it is easy for the whole assembly to collapse to one side when pushed.
    Can i say i almost fully agree? very small items don't need haha. anything taller then 1 feet tall with a decent load should have these else as you mention will become leaning tower of Singapore
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