Actually I already have a CO2 canister. The reason I wish to change, is because I saw somewhere in this forum that the canisters from NA, are much nicer looking (can anybody verify this?) , i.e. silver with black fonts. & if NA can offer on-the-spot one-to-one "refill", all the better. Seaview (seletar farmway) is slightly more inconvenient for me to travel to, compared to NA (Thomson Road).Originally Posted by VSGenesis
You can "shutdown" DIY CO2 at night using a dedicated powerhead connect to a diffusor (either a commercial one or a DIY one) and control the powerhead with a timer so that it turns off at night, the DIY CO2 will vent off thru the powerhead inlet to the water surface and not diffuse into the tank water at night.
Pls see this example :
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...160#post678160
Who said NA cylinder nicer? I find them looking normally haha. But NA Logo nice heee.
NA will only offer 1-1 exchange to their own tanks. It's a swapping of cylinders.
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Bioplast is the only lfs that will topup any tank for you on the spot. This is the best part I like about there.
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Re: where to buy CO2 set cheap ?
Al right, perhaps I should quantify, if the NA cylinders are indeed as per my description, personally, I'd like them more than the canister I currently own. I'm not saying everyone else should feel that they (the NA cylinders) look nicer.
As a matter of fact Felix, are you able to dig out any old photos of NA cylinders? I forgot where I saw it; & a simple Google search ain't giving me anything.
What's the largest cylinder size to comfortably & subtly carry around on public transport?
But even topping up on the spot takes slightly more time than an 1-to-1 right?
largest cylinder size.. depends on how often you go to the gymif you carry 20kg dumbells like you brush teeth, then 5kg should be a prob.. else for me, the smallest (2kg) is actually quite a weight already, but still managable on public transport.. i took bus that time. not sure if MRT allows you to bring it in..
Around 7-10 kg for 2 litre filled. (heavy enough IMHO)
If you want picture, drop me a pm in fourm or d3 with your number.
For On the spot refill, you can buy your own prefered cylinder. Many people like a personalized cylinder (when they can afford of course) so wait a while is ok.
For swapping, I see a few cylinder types NA uses. Nothing special. But swapping cylinders indeed is fastest.
Loved it when I was in a rush that day.
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May I know what's a "personalized" cylinder?
Your own one. Can be from lfs. Can be bought from other sources.
Most times I see aluminum ones.
Some bro want their own cylinder but want fast top up. So you know where they will go
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I actually went down just down to take a look (& feel) for myself. 3 versions caught my eye: a 0.94-liter, a 2-liter & a 3-liter. The 0.94-liter version is definitely the nicest, i.e. full silver & shiny, but I'm unsure if it's in the "1-for-1" exchange program. The 2-liter cylinder has a black main body with the tapered upper region a solid grey. Colour-wise, it looks nicer than the 3-liter version, which has a black main body with a dull silver tapered upper region (I suspect the tapered upper region is unpainted). Unfortunately, I didn't purchase any new cylinder, as while the NA one's are definitely nicer, they aren't that much nicer to make me buy one on the spot.
To be honest, I would have purchased the 2-liter version if it wasn't so short & stumpy; as I like its color theme the most. But on the other hand, the much more slender 3-liter version is just slightly too heavy for hand-carrying around.
I asked Mr. Chan if I can purchase one from him & spray-paint the exterior by myself, then I realized when doing the next one-to-one, I wouldn't be able to get back my "customized" cylinder. I also found out that re-filling cylinders that are not purchased from NA, takes around 1 week's turn-around time, according to Mr. Chan.
Actually, I'm very perplexed about one thing, my existing cylinder is taller than NA's 2-liter version, but it is significantly lighter than NA's 3-liter version, so I do not know the capacity of my existing one.
Felix, may I know how long does it take for Bioplast to fill up say, a 3-liter cylinder? I realized (today) that I can go to-&-fro NA & bioplast via bus service 21; so I can probably deposit the cylinder at Bioplast for topping up while I go shopping at NA. If I adopt this workflow, I can probably go spray paint my own cylinder.
Never topup at bioplast before.
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"if he cant be bothered to take the time to write his question properly, why should I take the time to answer him."
Well, will you be placing your CO2 tank outside or on the inside? If you really want nice one that you can refill yourself, I would go for an ADA tank /: if not then all of it will look the same. Else, if you want the convenience of NA, yet with your customised look, you can always create a sleeve for it, like wearing clothes. I did that for mine last time
What's an "ADA tank"?
Sorry I means ADA CO2 tank. You can try googling, and you should end up oogling..
Actually I did, & it appears ADA only started selling their non-mini-sized CO2 towers for their 20th anniversary celebration this year?Sorry I means ADA CO2 tank. You can try googling, and you should end up oogling..
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Yes they are so.... I just wanna buy and display them.
I do not have a cabient, hence my CO2 cylinder will be exposed.
Mind sharing how do you go about creating the sleeve? Is it form-fitting? Currently, my next move is to spray the cylinder to a custom colour of my choice. But I'm unsure if I will get back the exact same cylinder when I send it for re-filling (the conventional wait-n-week refilling; not the one-for-one exchange by NA)......Else, if you want the convenience of NA, yet with your customised look, you can always create a sleeve for it, like wearing clothes. I did that for mine last time
I'm intending to spray-paint my cylinders. Anybody knows if aluminum cylinders can be sandpaper-ed down for spraying? I saw someone did it with his steel cylinders before (using sandpaper to sand away the original coat) but unsure if there will be any danger to sand the aluminum surface...
Best if you want to sandpaper the tank, it be empty
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How much does Nature Aquarium charge for a new or used full CO2 set? I'm interested in getting a pressurized CO2 system.
@ 5stars, call them or head down to their store and ask. I find prices +- is not much difference everywhere. It's a matter of convenience only. NA is one to one exchange. While most lfs requires a few days to be refilled and then you will need to come back to pick it up.
1) CO2 Tank
2) Solenoid
3) Check Valve
4) Diffusor
5) CO2 Tubing
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