Said bye bye to one more neon tetra(5 of 12 left) and a cory... sad...
Still same readings with the test kits for nitrite(off the chart), no ammonia and nitrate.
Experienced another two neon tetras death yesterday .. The difference this time is that one of the dead fish is almost like encrusted in a cocoon of short white needles-like case. Got a big shock! It couldn't have been dead for more than 12 hours since I checked them before going to work. The other tetra do not have any visible markings on the body though.
I'm worried if the tank might be contaminated with any disease. I immediately did a 50% wc..
Any suggestion what next? thanks in advance..
How much life stock remaining?
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After they are dead for a while.
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I'm quite sure because every morning I would do stock take of the tanks before heading off to work.
It's like "count count count and count, ok all accounted for".... then "Please hor, don't die on me ok?"... then I head to work.
Now left 2 corys, 2 ottos, 5 rosy tetras and 3 neon tetras. There was a dozen to start with and they lived for I think a month at least before the deaths comes every couple of days. I thought I finally got a group which can survive since earlier batches of neon tetras don't even last a week, sometimes dead by next day. Well, that's before I started the regular siphoning of debris and 50% wc.
Anyway, while I was concerned about too much life stock to populate my new tank, I think by the time it's cycled, will be sui sui just nice.
Again, it's really really really tempting to just put them over to the 3 weeks old tank. Tonight I will check the water parameters again.
On a side note, my 10L tank, which have ammonia and nitrite on near or equal 0 and loads of nitrates which I assumed is cycled properly. I must confess I have not been using the gravel cleaner for weeks already. Just noticed the gunk on the gravel and they are really a mess.. as my gravel is pale greenish, the stuff isn't that much noticeable until I tried moving the sponge filter a little. Now since it is stable and my 4x neon rainbows, 4x white cloud mountain and 3x ottos are living happily there, if I go stir up the gravel with the cleaner to do the cleaning, I'm afraid of bring on another cycling session... darn... it's like, don't clean cannot, clean also cannot. Chicken and egg.
Brother ur story just like mine man. Fish die still not so bad leh. I had pregnant guppy gave birth in front of me within days of the start then same time see them all eaten within sec of birth.
Then they get sick, white patch, moldy, fin rot etc. I bought Medi, at the end also die. Like 50/50 and the Medi can be expensive. Enuff to buy more fish man!
Neon tetra is tuff to keep after what I read. Very easy die. I got 10 and 1 week down the line, left with 4.
I'm having a 40L or 10 Gal tank. Now I have left:
-coydora x 2
-neon tetra x 3
-guppy x 3
-platy x5
-danio x 4
-GAE (golden alge eater) x 1
-golden killies x 2
-plant real x1
-plant fake x1
With all these ppl say mine over crowded, urs will b lagi worst right? I feel slightly better now....hahahah.
Also my findings are which shop the fish comes from also makes a difference. I reckon I got these sick guppies from one lousy LFS then got everyone infected. Till now after 2-3weeks I still dealing with fin rot!
I doubt I'll put all the fishes into the big tank..likely keep the stable 10 L one as well...
Or I may just give away some... Anyway see how, if the death continues, I may just have the right quantity ..choy choy choy! Touch woods!
your nitrates off the charts means ALOT? if so frogbits can help soak up. and what filter are you using for your tank? and how big is your tank>?
Yup, a lot of it...darker than the darkest color on the API test kit.
It a 10L all-in-one type of tank with undergravel filter built in. Too small for frogbits and it comes with some weak led lights only...I've added a sponge filter more for aeration than actual filtering. While waiting for my 10G tank to cycle, my hands got itchy and I tried to clean the gravel yesterday. There isn't much waste debris like poo or uneaten food, but the whole gravel bed seemed to have developed a cottony mesh of gunk. Trying to vacuum it using the gravel cleaner was a mess, some were sticking to the gravel and not enough suction power to draw them up the tube. since it's already a mess, I decided to
pour some Seachem denitrate directly onto the undergravel filter bed and cover it with the original gravel. Hopefully it can help with some nitrate removal. I then added one of those cheap corner air filter where I replaced the bottom layer of gravel with the remainder of the denitrate and fixed it into the tank.
it was a major exercise and I thought it was probably super traumatic for the fish so decided to call it a day. Even though the cottony mess still clinging on everywhere on my plastic plants. I was worried with the vacuuming and stirring up of the gravel may cause me to have a mini cycle on the already stable tank so I stopped short of changing the water and creating more issues. Thankfully the fish survived the night.. I will check water parameter again before deciding whether to change water now or wait.
Thinking those stuff which I vacuum up may contain some bb, I scope them into a mesh packet and dump it into the 10G tank, hoping they will help with cycling. HAHA.. my wife says I'm using the NEW tank as a dumping ground.. Hehe
QUOTE=xconnect.;684072]your nitrates off the charts means ALOT? if so frogbits can help soak up. and what filter are you using for your tank? and how big is your tank>?[/QUOTE]
Your tank may have not been cycled long enough because you mention about the white substance that is a bacteria that will exist when your filter bacteria is not enough.we usually cycle our tank for about three weeks to a month.The white thing is harmless.it will go away when your tank is stable. For now you stop adding in lifestocks, don't overfeed. Should be ok
Sorry, but the "white thing" you mentioned is that the cottony stuff which I mentioned in my earlier post? Like dirt/cobwebs thing?
I have not added any new fish to this 10L tank for the past 3 months it should by now have cycled enough, the only reason I can think of otherwise is that there's too much fish and too little surface for the bacteria to grow on. Which is why I added the Seachem denitrate biomedia into the air filter and as a substrate for the undergravel filter to boost the surface area for bacteria growth. Strange is that if bacteria is not sufficient, why am I getting zero ammonia and nitrite for this tank for the past 2 weeks at least?
I got the Denitrate mainly because it's a small tank and there's no way I can get enough plants to absorb and use the nitrate and other than doing alternate days WC, i am thinking the Denitrate offers me some buffer time on getting rid of the nitrates.
I'm feeding them very minimally for quite some time... twice a day and so little that there's hardly any uneaten food on the substrate. That's why I find it strange why did I have so much of the cottony stuff which I think should be rubbish...
Anyway, it's 3 ottos, 4 rainbows and 4 white cloud mountains at the moment. Fingers crossed they survive. So far 2days since I mess around the tank installing the new air filter, everything looks normal at the moment. Fish swimming normallly and water is very clear, nothing on the Seachem Ammonia Alert as well.
I just don't have time to use test kits to get readings yet.
But this may be a temporary solution I would recommend you to have a filter with media in it for example a eheim 2211 with cr rings in it then like this sure wont have the cottony stuff.
first,I think the water is important, you need to measure the temperature, because the difference in temperature,and fry's resistance and vitality are low, the dead is normal.Then,pay attention to the Water quality,such as the PH value.And,please sure the new fish is easy-going,if there are another kinds in the aquarium.
I'd drool for a Eheim... but it's a 10L tank... will be super duper serious overkill.
Anyway, I am just waiting for my new 10gallon tank to be ready and migrate these fish over. Thanks.
A-ha,I make a mistake,anyway,wish your lovely fish have a happy new home,enjoy youself!
Farewell to the last of the neon tetras..
My female guppy also bye bye with a male dealing with bad fin rot.
Another female just died. Rots on some got worst. Got JBL 6in1 test kit not good. We see KH or GH or CH? This suppose to see if nutrient are ok or not. Their instructions in English and German indicate different from the colour chart. Which is which?
Anyway results mostly ok but CL2 (chlorine) one shade before 0. So I added more aqua plus. Measure again after 1min and shade almost 0.
Added medication by aqua pharm. let's see.
Other fin rot is in hospital with air an Medi using old water. Should I change 100% new water?
The male in hospital just passed on. How come just add fish then all get fin rot? If LFS dirty then how come theirs not rotten? Conditions like worst than mine lor.
Is it because guppies need black water??
Just lost another 2 male guppies and another now in hospital. Of the 6 I bought left only 1 now in ICU all due to fin rot.
May all my other fishes genna also!
Very upset very angry. Feel like giving up!
Those guppies cost me $30!!
Can anyone advice what's so wrong with my tank!
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