2026 not powerful enough to push water up my cabinet tank

[revo79]

Hi guys, my 2026 are not able to pump water up for my cabinet tank. My cabinet tank height is about 1.2m. My setup is as follow, inlet »» pre-filter »» 2026 »» chiller »» outlet. Funny thing is when i bring down my outflow pipe to those normal red pail on the ground, the whole system works. Water start gushing out from my outlet and flow rate on my 2026 shows a reasonable flow rate. But once i bring my outflow pipe back up to my tank, the flow immediately stop. Is it because my 2026 not powerful enough and i need to include a powerhead or pump into my setup?

[blurless]

Maybe you can measure what is the flow rate you are getting from the pail? This way can find out if your canister is clogged or not. Do something like this: take a 1L pail and measures how long your canister takes to fill it up. Then multiply it to L/hr. (or you can use a converter here: http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/...verter/flow/v/ )

You have lots of slack in the pipe? From the outlet of the canister to the tank, how long is your pipe? Got limitation in the maximum length of pipe from the canister outlet to the tank.

[reiner09]

hmm, 1.2m shouldn't be a problem .. i had a 2026> chiller > ss pipe >tank , driving up 1.5-1.6m with no problem.. just that the flowrate took quite a beating..

[revo79]

I have noticed the water is able to go up till the outflow pipe but just won't flow out into the rainbar. From chiller outlet to the top of my tank, the length of the hose is defintely less than 1m. Just don't understand how come the water simply can't flow out. It will only flow when i bring down the outflow pipe. My 2026 impeller is also working fine.

[reiner09]

I have noticed the water is able to go up till the outflow pipe but just won't flow out into the rainbar. From chiller outlet to the top of my tank, the length of the hose is defintely less than 1m. Just don't understand how come the water simply can't flow out. It will only flow when i bring down the outflow pipe. My 2026 impeller is also working fine.

i see... 2026 have that gauge, you can check if it is operating at it's maximum capacity... for my chain it maintained at its' maximum even though it is driving up 1.5-1.6 m .. you might want to check for kinks on the tubes / if the valves of the prefilter is fully opened.. i believe you have that knob(valve of the canister) fully compressed right?

[Techno]

I've a 2028 but it's just a normal setup.

Inlet -> 2028 -> Spraybar

You can try this if you have Installation Set 1. Make sure there is no water in the hoses and 2026. Detach the plug from the main canister. Pour water into the inlet hose until the inlet hose (and of course your prefilter) is full. Plug it back in and quickly turn on the power. if the canister starts to suck in more water, you're good to go.

[revo79]

Thanks all brothers here for the advice. Will go try it out and hopefully can solve my problem. Also hope more suggestions or advice can keep coming in. Thanks.

[gryphon]

I have noticed the water is able to go up till the outflow pipe but just won't flow out into the rainbar. From chiller outlet to the top of my tank, the length of the hose is defintely less than 1m. Just don't understand how come the water simply can't flow out. It will only flow when i bring down the outflow pipe. My 2026 impeller is also working fine.

I don't understand what is outflow pipe. Do you mean the water flows out the 2026 into chiller and up the hose halfway and not out into the inverted-U pipe to your rainbar?

[xconnect.]

I use the traditional use mouth suck style I started my totally empty 2026 fill with bio home plus and sponge inside.with a quick suck then gravity will do the work and the filter will push the water out.

[felix_fx2]

Hi revo79,

Have you tried the below few?

canister direct to the tank, the actual usage placement but skip chiller.

All the items skipping the tank and to a pail.

If during testing, please do observe the flowrate. (use hands, eyes or put some substrate in pail or simply looking. It's up to you).
Once you observe a large decline in flowrate.

The problem cause will be around there.

[gryphon]

I use the traditional use mouth suck style I started my totally empty 2026 fill with bio home plus and sponge inside.with a quick suck then gravity will do the work and the filter will push the water out.

Maybe there is a big pocket of air affecting it. Since you are using 2026, why not fill the 2026 near to the brim with water then cover and press the 2026's top round part a few times which helps to manually pump up the water to your rainbar. I am using 2026 too and this is what I did when I get it started

[rascal]

bro,, what is in your pre filter? may be you pack in to much stuff in it. If this is true you slow down you flow rate hence reducing bb from growing! you need adequete flow rate to grow bb in filter if I am not wrong

[revo79]

I don't understand what is outflow pipe. Do you mean the water flows out the 2026 into chiller and up the hose halfway and not out into the inverted-U pipe to your rainbar?

Yes, that is what I meant. Water get stuck at this portion and the flow will not continue.

[revo79]

I have tried sucking the water out from the outlet as well but it does not help also. Maybe I should try Bro Gryphon's method first and then see how from there.

[revo79]

Hi revo79,

Have you tried the below few?

canister direct to the tank, the actual usage placement but skip chiller.

All the items skipping the tank and to a pail.

If during testing, please do observe the flowrate. (use hands, eyes or put some substrate in pail or simply looking. It's up to you).
Once you observe a large decline in flowrate.

The problem cause will be around there.

I have noticed the flow rate is not that great as per compared when I fixed up everything (chiller and pre-filter). Does that means my 2026 is not powerful enough and I need to add in a powerhead / pump or at least a 2028 to run my setup?

[revo79]

bro,, what is in your pre filter? may be you pack in to much stuff in it. If this is true you slow down you flow rate hence reducing bb from growing! you need adequete flow rate to grow bb in filter if I am not wrong

My pre-filter has only some layers of filter wool and my 2026 is also not fully packed with filter media.

[blurless]

Did you check if there's any problem with the impeller? Any loud rattling sound when the canister is on?

[reiner09]

My pre-filter has only some layers of filter wool and my 2026 is also not fully packed with filter media.

And yes, it could be air stuck in your canister which might prevent your canister to function at its' maximum capacity..use bro gryphon method and see if the condition improves... Else it could really be thr motor's problem..as a 2026 is more than capable in handling such heights

[revo79]

Did you check if there's any problem with the impeller? Any loud rattling sound when the canister is on?

I did took out the impeller to take a look. Did not see any cracks but does hear some rattling sound for a while. When the water was flowing in and out with success, there is not any rattling sound.

[revo79]

And yes, it could be air stuck in your canister which might prevent your canister to function at its' maximum capacity..use bro gryphon method and see if the condition improves... Else it could really be thr motor's problem..as a 2026 is more than capable in handling such heights

Oh no, if it is motor problem then have to spend money again. Anyway will try all the methods and see how it goes. Wish me good luck.