Casualties from Kingfisher Aquarium?

**ban_tse** · 29th Mar 2004, 01:22

Hi.
Would like to know whether any of the forummers here have had casualties from Kingisher aquarium in the past few weeks.

Not trying to put the shop down, but me and a friend have had unsatisfactory fatalities recently, so would like to know if anyone else here is experiencing the same problem, or just that me and my friend just dont know how to condition our fish...

my count is 1 so far, as for my friend its about 10.

**aquanaut** · 29th Mar 2004, 01:47

My fishes are fine.. Bought ard 20+ fishes from them.. so far still alrite...
Wat are the casualties??

**MrTree** · 29th Mar 2004, 09:38

Some fish were in good condition, some were not. depends on which species you bought.

I lost some fish I bought from the shop too, but that was my own fault. :P

**Aeon** · 29th Mar 2004, 11:30

Maybe you didn't acclimatise the fish properly?

**anzai** · 29th Mar 2004, 11:32

yep ...
1 cherry KIA, 1 golden tetra MIA, platinum neons ICH outbreak, and 1 one them soon up the lorry ...

better hope and pray they dont die on me ...
such beautiful fish

**hwchoy** · 29th Mar 2004, 12:07

well, for those wanting to get the "wild" platinum neon, they came down with major whitespot when I went visiting yesterday. Their "polka-dot rasbora" which is actually Boraras micros also having an outbreak. The fish is so small I only noticed when I looked through my camera with a +9 closeup.

I still maintain he should bring his water pH to slightly below neutral.

kc · 29th Mar 2004, 14:04

The owner is most friendly. I went there last week. That was the first time I was given a guilded tour of a LFS.

BTW: Which LFS sell fish that cannot die?

**crandf** · 29th Mar 2004, 14:19

"That which is dead can never die." quote from george r.r. martin.

**Roadrage** · 29th Mar 2004, 14:47

[quote:357e89088a="crandf"]"That which is dead can never die." quote from george r.r. martin.[/quote:357e89088a]

**samhon** · 29th Mar 2004, 14:52

uncle ian quarantine his fish and i rem him refusin to sell me is z oto cos they look not good and not stablize yet .... so i dun tink he sell fish tt has problem.

fishes die due to 3 reasons,

the environment it lives in

the stress tt it has when it arrives in ur tank

and also whether it already comes with patogen.

so maybe u need to just be more careful on ur part.

as for me i bought many fishes from uncle ian .... roadrage will know, but onli 3 hatchet die ... cos of stress and tt they r delicate fishes lah

sam robin

**kelloggs** · 29th Mar 2004, 15:36

I agree that Ian, the shopowner is very friendly. Not many shopowners are friendly here. I visited the shop before and wanted to get some cardinals. The shopowner refused to sell and asked me to come back in 3 days' time to check whether the fish was alrite? I guess he was putting the fish on quarantine. I guess he is very responsible in this aspect; i think not many LFS will refuse to sell a customer some fish just because they want to ensure nothing is wrong with the patch of fish. The customer may not come back!

As for my case, I really went back and get 25 cardinals; only one casualty for more than a month...

**jeff_corwin** · 29th Mar 2004, 15:45

I have never been to the disputed LFS but IMO we should sometimes check if the casualty was due to our fault and not blame the owner, Judging from the replies I see from other forum members, I think the owner should not be put at blame.

**anzai** · 29th Mar 2004, 16:37

unfortunately i got the batch of platinum neons that were abt to be hit by ich ...

just my luck i guess

**shortman** · 29th Mar 2004, 20:33

When fish change environment it usually get very stress and this is the time it get sick easily.

Usually buy the fish after 2nd visit, wait and see if new fish in the LFS are stable and check any dying fish around.

**ban_tse** · 29th Mar 2004, 20:41

[quote:058200bfaa="samhon"]uncle ian quarantine his fish and i rem him refusin to sell me is z oto cos they look not good and not stablize yet [/quote:058200bfaa]

my bad then....i got the zebra oto....
alas....

to add, i've gotten 8 lampeyes in all and they are doing fine in my tank now. This whole thread was just to get a general response from the other bros here who have patronised him.

So the moral of the story is that we should be more careful when buying fish and when placing them in our tank. rite?

Ben

**leroyfong** · 29th Mar 2004, 20:54

was there yesterday and noticed nearly all the platinum neons were hit with ich. so did not consider taking up any. forgot to tell him abt it and treat the fishes before further sales.

**hwchoy** · 29th Mar 2004, 21:11

which lamp eye you're referring to? those broadbody so called "Indian Lampeye" are actually rice fish or medaka, from the genus Oryzias. His specimens came from India, where there are two species.

**ban_tse** · 29th Mar 2004, 23:24

[quote:868ff88ba3="hwchoy"]which lamp eye you're referring to? those broadbody so called "Indian Lampeye" are actually rice fish or medaka, from the genus Oryzias. His specimens came from India, where there are two species.[/quote:868ff88ba3]

yup...
got the broadbody ones..they're happy now...with the african ones....

so the broadbodied ricefish is part of the killiefish family rite? are they the ones which have the eggs stuck around the outside of the females' stomachs???

sorry, sidetrack a bit here...

Ben

**hwchoy** · 29th Mar 2004, 23:57

they're no longer classified under the killifish group (and so should not be called lampeye anymore) but by itself in the family Adrianichthyidae, also check out this discussion which has a lot more information about Oryzias.

**jeff_corwin** · 30th Mar 2004, 12:22

[quote:29c2c50182="hwchoy"] Their "polka-dot rasbora" which is actually Boraras micros also having an outbreak. The fish is so small I only noticed when I looked through my camera with a +9 closeup.[/quote:29c2c50182]

Hi Choy, I am very curious about what you have mention about the microrasboras. The whitespot must be really small that you need a +9 closeup lens to see it. From my past experience, whitespot is easier to spot in smaller fish or does ICH parasites come in various strains and sizes ? I have notice in my past experience with white spot is that the sizes of it is always similar no matter what fishes is infected. But from your post I notice that your rasboras is being infected with a new strain of ICH parasite whereby you will need a closeup lens to see it in full view. Another possibilities that I can think of is that different sizes of whitespot go for different sizes of fish ? In that case if my arowana goes down with ICH, the whitespot must be around the size of a red bean ?

Hopefully, you are not adding fuel to the fire