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    Quote Originally Posted by standoyo
    lucky just neon tetras- if cardinals can cry one le...
    rather odd for them to bite each other. sure you don't have mini puffer or some rainbowfish inside?
    No, I don't have any of these fishes yet. I find this strange as well. I have some neon tetras in a 4ft tank in my workplace with all the mixed fishes of goldfishes, swordtails & some kind of tetras (but no plants) and they are fine leh. Maybe I've not fed them enough? Now, I'm trying to feed them first by "usher" them to a corner (usually they hang around the surface nowadays..).

    My wife is complaining now cos I'm paying too much attention to the fish tank. When I wake up in the morning, the first thing that I "greet" is my fish tank!

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    i meant neon tets killing each other very much cheaper than cardinal tets mah.

    espcially when your population reduced by as much... ow.

    i agree tank get more attention, even my mother don't get so much attention but if it's your wife er...
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    Protien Layer On Surface

    Something to share...

    I stopped running the air pump during the night (lights out, CO2 off) for a week and there was a gradual built up of protien on the surface of the water. I introduced air back into the tank and sure enough the layer of protien dissappeared the next day!

    I'm not using any protien skimmer as I do not like to use too many plastics stuff in the tank as plastics seem to attract algae! I think there is much advantage to introduce air into a planted tank when lights are out for a long period of time as both plants and livestocks are fighting for air. I believe the air bubbles remove the protien layer as well.

    The only disadvantage is a much higher PH in the morning and it takes around noon for the PH to drop to 6.8 or 6.9 ... Anyone has this same experience?

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    Adding Rain Water...

    This might sound ridiculous...

    For the past three weeks, I've been collecting rain water and adding it to my tank (about 1 litre every two days due to the fans). The plants are growing very well and the fishes are rather active! Every week I add 2.5ml of florena (sera). The only sign of algae is from a small piece of drift wood which the Sailfin molly like to feast on! The CO2 rate is 1 bubble/3 secs.

    A two feet tank has much restriction on landscaping if I wish to plant densely... I believe most of the plants (I'm not good with plants & its names) that I bought are the fast growing types which need to be pruned very often. I 'm thinking of introducing "slow growing" ones. Any suggestions or advice are most welcome. Tks!
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    you can do tons with a 2 feet...check out some of the Nature aquarium books..they have a "lets 60" series... which just shows the potential of a 2 feet.... happy planting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranmasatome
    you can do tons with a 2 feet...check out some of the Nature aquarium books..they have a "lets 60" series... which just shows the potential of a 2 feet.... happy planting..
    i agree totally, just use small leaved plants to give illusion of size...

    here's a mix of big in bg and small in fg...
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    For the fans holder, you can try using the curtain track holder (Singapore should have it right?) like what i did for mine. This is the third time i have switched the position of the fans and proves to be the most efficient with temperature at 26C. Cheers and really nice tank! (eyes green with envy)


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    How did you guys get your tank water to look so clear? Nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justikanz
    How did you guys get your tank water to look so clear? Nice...
    er... avoid itchy fingers syndrome...

    actually, water's clear when your tank is mature. cloudiness is normal of new tanks. i assume that you have new tank...
    it's bacteria bloom.
    just give it time to settle down...patience...


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    My tank has been running for 2 years liao... Still the water will be rather cloudy (looks like there are very very fine particles in the water) once in a while... *Hmm!*... There ARE times when the water is crystal clear but its been some time since I last see it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justikanz
    My tank has been running for 2 years liao... Still the water will be rather cloudy (looks like there are very very fine particles in the water) once in a while... *Hmm!*... There ARE times when the water is crystal clear but its been some time since I last see it...
    In that case...
    question

    1.how many liter tank?
    2.how many fish in terms of inches added up together? too many plus over feeding may cause this prob.
    3.filter flow rate? too low and your filter not doing enough
    4.what kind of gravel/rock are you using? have you done vinegar/ph down test on them to check if they are limestone/coral rock[these are no no]
    5.what fert are you using?
    6.how often you clean your filter [once a month max], when you clean your filter you are ridding it of crap AND the good bacteria. this will cause cloudiness.
    use a nitrosomonas and nitrobacter concentrate to resow your filter....

    it could be any of these that leads to cloudiness. there could be more sinister factors like your fish are smoking some dope...

    but normally if you do less and leave things alone the cloudiness will disappear...
    itchy finger syndrome is common among us. so that could be a factor too.

    i assume the cloudiness is of a milky type and not algae[green type].

    hope this was helpful...

    let me know

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    Woah... QnA time...

    Quote Originally Posted by standoyo
    In that case...
    question

    1.how many liter tank?
    Ans: The tank is 4'x2'x2' = 430l

    2.how many fish in terms of inches added up together? too many plus over feeding may cause this prob.
    Ans: Total inches? You won't wanna know...

    Population quite big... let me see... ~40 Cardinals, ~10 Pencils, ~10 Black skirts, ~12 Cherry barbs, 4 Otos, 2 SAEs, ~4 Apistos, ~5 Yoyo loaches, ~4 Khuli loaches, 1 Dwarf rainbow, 1 female betta, snails, Yamatos and Cherry shrimps.

    Not much food left over after feeding as the loaches and shrimps will get to them... Try to feed less but then again, I only feed once a day or two...

    3.filter flow rate? too low and your filter not doing enough
    Ans:Filter ah... Ehiem... Forgot model number... I am running it on 3/4 power. If I increase the outflow, some fine dust will be blown out of the filter for a short moment...

    4.what kind of gravel/rock are you using? have you done vinegar/ph down test on them to check if they are limestone/coral rock[these are no no]
    Ans: Inert gravel used

    5.what fert are you using?
    Ans: No substrate fert used. Only liquid fert used. Then again, only add ~once a month. Using Seachem and Tetra.

    6.how often you clean your filter [once a month max], when you clean your filter you are ridding it of crap AND the good bacteria. this will cause cloudiness.
    use a nitrosomonas and nitrobacter concentrate to resow your filter....
    Never clean the filter since it was set up in ~6 months ago. I had never clean my filters once they are operational. Never hasd problems with these fine particles till this setup...

    it could be any of these that leads to cloudiness. there could be more sinister factors like your fish are smoking some dope...
    Keke... They dare!

    but normally if you do less and leave things alone the cloudiness will disappear...
    itchy finger syndrome is common among us. so that could be a factor too.

    i assume the cloudiness is of a milky type and not algae[green type].

    hope this was helpful...

    let me know

    Its not very milky... Just like something is always suspended in the water lor...

    My tank pics: http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=194719
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    nice tank, hmmm...sure your fish are confirmed non smokers ya?

    i suggest you pat the filter wool, clean it a bit, up the flow rate of your filter to max. flow rate blowing stuff up means it's doing it's job... like house when dust gets collected in corners and under the bed from using fan...

    plan b. you can try using waste control by hagen. some crud chewing liquid concentrate.[biological] remember to changewater[day after] after using this as this ups the ammonia because the bacteria innit eats dead leaves food etc[unclogs your filter]. [by-product is ammonia etc.]

    plan c. try using a chemical binder that you can buy from lfs. this binds fine particles that can be trapped by your filter. got some funny-tacky names like crystal clear water etc. cloudy at first but should clear overnight.

    plan d. use gravel cleaner to do 90% water change. stir up about i to two cm of gravel. this is gonna prove difficult since your tank is heavily planted.
    what i used to to was stick a powerhead in there with top filterbox after lights of and leave it to blow and suck up dirt for a couple a few night in a row. i have discus in my tank who eat a lot and shit a lot.

    it could be your gravel need a bit of maintainence... yes it's one of those times.
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    Ahhh!!! I hate gravel vacuuming...

    Think i will go for plan b or c...

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    It could be the way you arrange the elements in your filter? The Eheim site has some details: http://www.eheim.com/ (products > water care / filter media) . I am using two layers of the "fine filter pads" to trap very fine particles. The compatables types will do, it is much cheaper!

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    Looks like I have no choice but to open up the filter... Hmm... Will do so when I am rescaping the tank then...

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