Help needed: Problem with CRS

[bai]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Very sad to hear that my kindness of offering help on medication had led to a lot of disputes amongst the members here. Heard a lot of bad rumours were going on and un-proclaimed. If I ever hear any rumour again from today onwards regardless forums, PMs or MSNs, I will stop my help immediately even I have promised you earlier. My help is genuine and for the good of the members.

As for those who had bought soils from silane, I can assure you that his soils are safe for shrimps. I have used them in my tanks without any problem, still using.

Virus, bacteria or fungus can be come from anywhere. Most likely they are spreading from newly bought shrimps, unknown source. So for those who are new at shrimp keeping, my advise to you is to put them in quarantine. If not, case like black spot disease can be very troublesome. Not just have to find a cure for shrimps, you have to overhaul all your tank setup and equipment. Don't rule out the possibility that some of these harmful viruses or bacterias may residue in your filtering system and tank walls. They may come back again and attack your shrimps if you did not clean them thoroughly enough. It will become your nightmare. I am no joking on that.

I fully agreed as I'm also using Silane Soil and my Shrimp is still breeding very well.

[silane]

Hi Guys, I think there is no need to clarify on this soil issue. It is obvious that soil is not the cause, at least 2 in the 3 are using different soil. And now the 4th one in suspect is not using my soil. Out of the 4, 3 of them I dont even know them before before this outbreak. Chinese saying, Rumour stop at wise people.

He who tries to blame others and other's good will but not focus on the issues will not get free med from me or Xmant of 2 different formula. Not that we do not want to help the shrimps, but it is the shrimp owner does not deserve it or opted not to.

[Wjustin]

Hi Guys, I think there is no need to clarify on this soil issue. It is obvious that soil is not the cause, at least 2 in the 3 are using different soil. And now the 4th one in suspect is not using my soil. Out of the 4, 3 of them I dont even know them before before this outbreak. Chinese saying, Rumour stop at wise people.

He who tries to blame others and other's good will but not focus on the issues will not get free med from me or Xmant of 2 different formula. Not that we do not want to help the shrimps, but it is the shrimp owner does not deserve it or opted not to.

i certainly believe that silane soil is ok as i have been using it for a very very long time =) more than 8 months and i never encounter any problems with it

[nasty12]

So now you still suspect or not suspect the soil which is causing it?

Just to help us to understand how fast the dieases spread, can you tell us when was the last time you bought shrimps from a LFS and shrimps from overseas?

Silane thanks again for helping me out.. im taking everything into consideration as i believe no one really knows how this infection came about.

despite numourous approaches i was unable to find out the reason on why my shrimps changed colour nor what diesease is this... thus i went to seek friends most of them mentioned that it could be the water, Food, New shrimps added or the bottom of the soil turn bad releasing unwanted Bacteria from beneath.

Im aware that the soil is okay as there are many users using it.

i do buy shrimps from time to time from LFS/Farms in Singapore.. Perhaps every week once?
I did help ask a friend to ship in for some Members and i In May.
So far nothing wrong with their shrimps on their side.

[newlife]

Like what Evil refer... When got good stuff...people will treat you like god...when things happen...blame will start coming.Am I right.....Mr Evil???

For me, Like what I state.... Now is not the time to blame people's soil!!! Which I think is really unfair to silane...when thing's happen...blame on the Soil!?? If everyone of us use silane's soil ended with this disease then it could be something wrong.I myself recently used silane soil....it work out fine to me. My shrimps is breeding well and better then before.

It's better to remedy the problem before starting to point fingers at people.

[nasty12]

Like what Evil refer... When got good stuff...people will treat you like god...when things happen...blame will start coming.Am I right.....Mr Evil???

For me, Like what I state.... Now is not the time to blame people's soil!!! Which I think is really unfair to silane...when thing's happen...blame on the Soil!?? If everyone of us use silane's soil ended with this disease then it could be something wrong.I myself recently used silane soil....it work out fine to me. My shrimps is breeding well and better then before.

It's better to remedy the problem before starting to point fingers at people.

I agree that Silane's soil is good!
clear.. no ammonia and can restart a tank at the fingers tips!

[eviltrain]

yesh, bro newlife, that is what i mean.
one chinese saying, cross the river , tear the bridge.

IF i am the one who got this, i will search the internet for information about this black spot thing as i have no previous knowledge about this problem.

And will list down things such as

water ( where my water come from / parameter )
soil ( age, type, where it come from )
food ( type, where it come from )
etc..

then i will just try to remedy from there onwards.

- hope this will settle down soon -

[newlife]

yesh, bro newlife, that is what i mean.
one chinese saying, cross the river , tear the bridge.

IF i am the one who got this, i will search the internet for information about this black spot thing as i have no previous knowledge about this problem.

And will list down things such as

water ( where my water come from / parameter )
soil ( age, type, where it come from )
food ( type, where it come from )
etc..

then i will just try to remedy from there onwards.

- hope this will settle down soon -

Ya.....remedy the problem instead of blaming....no one wants all this from happening. Just want to find a cure to this...

[Neutral81]

Hi all,

Just hope that we can resolve this dispute soon and let everyone learn something new (whether is it regard to the disease or other thing)…
First of all, I would like to thanks Silane for the medication that he has provided. Though this medication has not been proven to work on this disease but at least its some medication that can be tested on. Just hope that its work and everything is fine. Thanks Xmant for sharing his medication to others as well.
Just changed some water and added in the medication. Will monitor them for 7 days. Maybe just a clarification, I am using GEX soil. So Sliane soil is not the course for it.
Next, I just want to explain why I didn’t name the person. To me I don’t think its right to name the person upfront in the forum who sells me the shrimps. 1)He himself doesn’t know that the shrimp are infected. Therefore I should give him the benefit of doubt that he sells me based on the fact he don’t know that they are infected. 2) I understand that since I bought the shrimp myself, I cannot blame him for this. Thing just happen and that’s just my luck.. bo pian... 3) I believed that he would have the ethical not to sell those shrimps to others once he knows that they are infected. Therefore I didn’t name him.
I believe no one wants this to happen also.. Thus I think it best to quarantine the shrimps first from any source that you purchase and prevent other disease from spreading.
Lastly hope we can clear the dispute rest and find a remedy..
Thanks.

[Jimmy]

you are the man, Neutral81! let us move on.

[silane]

1 more victim, same source of the diease.

Todate: 4 got it, 1 suspect.

[newlife]

GREAT.....Neutral....do keep us update on the on-going of your shrimps....

[kian]

i'm referring to some other peoples from what i saw in the forum ( yes, i'm too free and stalks at other peoples thread everyday ) haha.

one kind of rice feed thousands kind of people.

-OT- when you passing me the old sea mud rock? hee hee

hmm i agreed on it too..when got lo bang to share treat me like friend..but when ownself got lo bang..treat me like stranger...sighs..

[kian]

i do buy shrimps from time to time from LFS/Farms in Singapore.. Perhaps every week once?
I did help ask a friend to ship in for some Members and i In May.
So far nothing wrong with their shrimps on their side.

care to share which LFS/Farms?

[binniez]

A very big thumbs up to Silane & Xmant for the concern shown although they were not the seller of the shrimps! Hope all those shrimps that are affected have a speedy recovery! As for the seller of the shrimps, instead of actually asking the buyers to quarantine the shrimps that are being sold to them, the seller should be the one to actually quarantine the shrimps that he bought to RESELL.. How many of us do actually have the luxury of a spare tank running with chiller just to quarantine the newly bought shrimps? It is totally not practical at all..

[eviltrain]

rearing CRS is not practical at all too.

[tripleJ]

following this thread closely.

[binniez]

rearing CRS is not practical at all too.

Haha.. Totally agreed bro Alan! Not practical to the pocket and not practical to
financial controller too.. Financial controller's logic, if u can afford to buy shrimps, u can afford to buy me louis vuitton too..

[Xmant]

rearing CRS is not practical at all too.

Hmm.....bro, if that was the opinion, why are you still rearing CRS? I don't get your logic.

[eviltrain]

to me its not practical. its the passion that makes me like CRS. hahaha