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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

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    Anyway, I'm curious, did either stormhawk or simon see FISH in those stream? I'm still curious how come never kena eaten...

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    I have when to one stream. Before the environment is where there is the bottom of the stream is covered with a thick layer of ketapan leaves so the shrimps alot of hiding places.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    yes, native plenty of barbs (T-barb, harlequins, half beaks). You can nib like the fishes in fish spa

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    The stream where I saw the shrimps did not have fish in it. It was very small and shallow.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    I've seen what looks like Cardidna propinqua and Macrobrachium malayanum among other local fishes in a stream around Seletar.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    and Only took the pictures today, hope someone can identify them.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    http:/http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/images/attach/jpg.gif/www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/images/attach/jpg.gif Sorry the previous post didn't show the shrimp. here is it.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Thanks for posting! Wah they really look more like propinqua/rednose shaped.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Do they have long arms?

    C. propinqua should look like this:
    http://mangrove.nus.edu.sg/guidebooks/text/2039.htm

    C. temasek should look like this:


    Photo of C. temasek by hwchoy.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Probably not C. propinqua. Entirely freshwater and small at 1.5cm-2cm.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Need clearer photos to be sure. Then perhaps you can forward them to Cai Yixiong at NUS for a proper ID.
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Haha need clearer photos, but I hope I'm right when I say the shape looks more like propinqua, with the small size means look like sulawesi shrimp ^^

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Where did you get them ?

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Thanks everyone for the input and discussions!

    Draka and stormhawk: Thanks for the tips on how to ID Malayan shrimps. Indeed, while I was at Polyart & C328 just now, I took a look at the Yamato shrimp and saw the spots. Now hoping to find some Malayans in a store so that I can make mental notes for comparison.

    stormhawk, Simon and Johora: Interesting accounts on finding local prawns and shrimps in the Central Catchment Area. The shrimp in Simon's photo reminds me of a Macrobrachium, probably one of those forest prawns, unlike the introduced riceland prawns Macrobrachium lanchesteri and Oriental river prawns Macrobrachium nipponense found in the reservoirs and open-country streams. And yes, poaching is definitely a big no-no. While I did go through a phase as a teenager chasing and collecting mollies, guppies, and tilapia from the canal behind where I used to live, I'm definitely never going to venture into the forest with the aim of catching something to bring home. Our remaining natural freshwater habitats are already so threatened by development and pollution, and there's always the danger from introduced species, the last thing they need is a bunch of poachers trying to catch fishes, shrimps and crabs to rear at home. There always is the potential for collaboration between aquarists and conservationists, but it does require that we cooperate with researchers and the park authorities and make sure that the proper permission is received before any form of collecting can be done, even if it's purely for basic scientific research.

    Shaihulud: I'm curious as to where you obtained these shrimps. Are they from open-country streams? Ponds? Canals? The forest species like the Temasek shrimp are most probably not suitable for my setup, and if you say they're really hardy, they might just be what I want for my rural stream / reservoir setup. Have they been able to breed in freshwater? The only possible problem is the size though, as it might mean they're at risk of getting nibbled on by the guppies, bettas and even small gobies in my tank.

    And yes, more detailed and high-res photos would be useful in narrowing down a possible ID for your shrimps. Or if one or more of your shrimps dies, you could quickly preserve it in a vial of alcohol and send it to the researchers in NUS Department of Biological Sciences or Raffles Museum of Biodiversity Research, who might be able to take a close look at the anatomy and pin down the ID.

    As an aside, are Malayan shrimps or other atyid shrimps compatible with riceland prawns? I have around 10 riceland prawns in my aquarium, that I bought as a bag of 20+ feeders (the rest were gradually lost due to the attrition that's expected where it comes to feeders - at least I guess I have the healthiest of the lot left now). The prawns are between 2-4 cm long, and haven't disturbed my fishes. They're content to sit around and pick at bits of uneaten food in the gravel and moss. However, I'm a bit worried that if I get a bunch of Caridina shrimp that are too small, they'll end up being snacked on by the larger prawns. Polyart had some red-nose shrimp (Caridina gracilirostris), which are suitable for my setup (red-nose shrimp have actually been recorded in Singapore), but they were so tiny that I was concerned about them getting eaten by the prawns.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Hi Pseudogobiopsis, are you also working in NUS? Or perhaps NTU?
    Your knowledge seemed to hint at more than just hobbyist interests, hehe.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Quote Originally Posted by Navanod View Post
    Hi Pseudogobiopsis, are you also working in NUS? Or perhaps NTU?
    Your knowledge seemed to hint at more than just hobbyist interests, hehe.
    same pattern like you? Wall Of Text?
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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Haha oh man, Navanod you work in NUS/NTU? Haha must meet you some time ^^ And yes, was wondering the exact same thing throughout...

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    I'm asking because I'm working in NUS and studied zoological sciences at NTU and the TS sounded like an academic.

    Whoops, getting OT guys.
    Sorry I started it. Haha.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    During army days if I recall it is a army training area which we call mosquitoes ring should be somewhere inside lower pierce reserviour. There are a few big catchment inside there. We gain access due to army training there in the catchment or pond or whatever your consider there can find assorted type of breeds. I don't know whether public can go in thru another route.

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    Re: Looking for 'local' Caridina shrimps

    Haha yea, saw plenty of interesting plants there too! There were pitcher plants and african tulips and flame of the forest, to name a few I recognized. Didn't see anything in the water though, although there seemed to be a lot of fish at one part of the water.

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