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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

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    Hi...May I know how to solve the airlock problem in my Ecco Pro 300?

    My outflow seems to be just trickling out water.Brought to QH and they claimed to be just an airlock problem.Water in the tank is still quite clean and clear though.

    First tray contains white wool and squarish media.
    Second tray contains mini balls and Purigen pack.
    Third tray contains only matrix pieces.
    Last edited by RenesisTurbo; 24th Jun 2016 at 17:20.
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    I think I had enough of the Ecco Pro 300 and it's problems after 3 weeks of continuous tinkering.Thinking of getting Classic 2215 from C328 later.

    Is Classic 2215 suitable for my Ryukin tank?
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    Hi...May I know how to solve the airlock problem in my Ecco Pro 300?

    My outflow seems to be just trickling out water.Brought to QH and they claimed to be just an airlock problem. Water in the tank is still quite clean and clear though.

    First tray contains white wool and squarish media.
    Second tray contains mini balls and Purigen pack.
    Third tray contains only matrix pieces.
    Has it always been like that? Or did it happen only recently?

    Your tray media placement could be better, ideally the bottom and middle tray should hold the larger media (ie. Seachem matrix and other Eheim bio-media)... while the top tray should have the white filter wool and purigen pack.

    You wouldn't want the fine white filter wool and purigen pack in the middle or bottom tray as those will just clog up very fast with larger debris and slow down the flow.

    That could be one of the reasons why your filter is experiencing an imbalance in flow ratio, too little water getting through and air pocket forming in the impeller area, rendering it ineffective.

    Try re-adjusting the media placement and replacing the fine white filter wool (it might be too clogged up), see if that helps to create better flow. Also make sure the canister is primed properly and full of water before switching on the filter. Also pump the priming handle a few more times beforehand to expel trapped air. Shake the filter when its running to release remaining trapped air too.

    If you do all that and it still doesn't work, then have to check the impeller and seals. Sometimes the impeller is loose or the seals are not tight and leak in air, so it affects the filter operation. Have to replace those parts if got issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    I think I had enough of the Ecco Pro 300 and it's problems after 3 weeks of continuous tinkering.Thinking of getting Classic 2215 from C328 later.

    Is Classic 2215 suitable for my Ryukin tank?
    Eheim 2215 will be suitable for your tank too... ultimately it all still depends on your tank's bio-load and how well you maintain and clean the tank and filter regularly.
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Aquaria View Post
    Has it always been like that? Or did it happen only recently?

    Your tray media placement could be better, ideally the bottom and middle tray should hold the larger media (ie. Seachem matrix and other Eheim bio-media)... while the top tray should have the white filter wool and purigen pack.

    You wouldn't want the fine white filter wool and purigen pack in the middle or bottom tray as those will just clog up very fast with larger debris and slow down the flow.

    That could be one of the reasons why your filter is experiencing an imbalance in flow ratio, too little water getting through and air pocket forming in the impeller area, rendering it ineffective.

    Try re-adjusting the media placement and replacing the fine white filter wool (it might be too clogged up), see if that helps to create better flow. Also make sure the canister is primed properly and full of water before switching on the filter. Also pump the priming handle a few more times beforehand to expel trapped air. Shake the filter when its running to release remaining trapped air too.

    If you do all that and it still doesn't work, then have to check the impeller and seals. Sometimes the impeller is loose or the seals are not tight and leak in air, so it affects the filter operation. Have to replace those parts if got issues.



    Eheim 2215 will be suitable for your tank too... ultimately it all still depends on your tank's bio-load and how well you maintain and clean the tank and filter regularly.
    Hi,UA.....Thanks for the help since I subscribed to the Eheim thread.

    I dare say the slow water flow happened 3 months after I used the filter.Actually I was thinking to replace the Ecco with 2215 tonight but after reading your suggestions,I decided to give the Ecco one more shot at redeeming itself.

    Since I started to set up my first aquarium 10 years ago,I used Pickup 160,2213 and later Ecco Pro and Pro 3.The one that gave me the most headaches is the Ecco.How are the reviews from users like on Ecco Pro besides the usual complaints about the priming handle?

    So my order of placing the filter media should be

    Top tray-Mini balls with white wool and Purigen.
    2nd tray-Ceramic squares
    Bottom tray-Matrix.

    Is it correct?

    Should I close the shut off taps before I prime the filter?
    Last edited by RenesisTurbo; 25th Jun 2016 at 20:14.
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    Since I started to set up my first aquarium 10 years ago,I used Pickup 160,2213 and later Ecco Pro and Pro 3.The one that gave me the most headaches is the Ecco.How are the reviews from users like on Ecco Pro besides the usual complaints about the priming handle?
    Well, so far i've been using Ecco Pro filters for my various tanks for many years and haven't encountered any issues.

    As long as they are maintained regularly, they will work well for a very long time. I have an old generation 2nd hand ecco unit (more than 10 yrs old) still working efficiently on one of my tanks.

    I've helped some people troubleshoot problems with their filters and 95% of the time its usually due to user error. Most of it can be solved by simply checking the usage procedures again and refering to the instruction manual if unsure.


    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    So my order of placing the filter media should be

    Top tray-Mini balls with white wool and Purigen.
    2nd tray-Ceramic squares
    Bottom tray-Matrix.

    Is it correct?
    That bio-media arrangement is okay, the objective is basically to filter the water through gradually decreasing media gap size... flow path = coarse > medium > fine.

    In addition, try not to pack the filter too full, as that can restrict flow alot. Make sure that when you shake the media trays you can still hear the media rattle and move abit.


    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    Should I close the shut off taps before I prime the filter?
    Both taps must always be fully open when you prime the filter. Same as with all filters.

    If the taps are closed or only partially open, water cannot enter and exit properly, causing airlocks and possibly breaking the priming handle due to pressure resistance.
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Aquaria View Post
    Well, so far i've been using Ecco Pro filters for my various tanks for many years and haven't encountered any issues.

    As long as they are maintained regularly, they will work well for a very long time. I have an old generation 2nd hand ecco unit (more than 10 yrs old) still working efficiently on one of my tanks.

    I've helped some people troubleshoot problems with their filters and 95% of the time its usually due to user error. Most of it can be solved by simply checking the usage procedures again and refering to the instruction manual if unsure.




    That bio-media arrangement is okay, the objective is basically to filter the water through gradually decreasing media gap size... flow path = coarse > medium > fine.

    In addition, try not to pack the filter too full, as that can restrict flow alot. Make sure that when you shake the media trays you can still hear the media rattle and move abit.




    Both taps must always be fully open when you prime the filter. Same as with all filters.

    If the taps are closed or only partially open, water cannot enter and exit properly, causing airlocks and possibly breaking the priming handle due to pressure resistance.
    Hi,Bro UA...Thanks for your help.

    The reason for my weak outflow after closer examination of the Ecco powerhead is that I found out the white ball which is near the ball cage is blocking the outflow of the water.Somehow during previous monthly maintenance, the white ball dropped and I stuffed it firmly into the ball cage.Shifted the ball slightly and hey presto.....The outflow was as strong as a new Ecco.

    Media wise is ok.Everything is ok.You are right to say 90% of problems for the Ecco is due to user problems.
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Yeah, that white ball is meant to float loosely inside the red plastic cage holder as a sort of rudimentary back-flow protection.

    Good that its solved!
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Anyone using a Ecco 2233 can tell me how the media is suppose to be placed from bottom up?

    I got 4 types in the canister
    Blue Coarse Sponge
    Ceramic Rings
    Biohomme
    White Fine Sponge

    Just want to confirm what the sequence from top to bottom or bottom to top suppose to be as recently after more then 5 years with the filter i start getting low flowrate 3-7 days after cleaning

    Thank you

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Anyone using a Ecco 2233 can tell me how the media is suppose to be placed from bottom up?

    I got 4 types in the canister
    Blue Coarse Sponge
    Ceramic Rings
    Biohomme
    White Fine Sponge

    Just want to confirm what the sequence from top to bottom or bottom to top suppose to be as recently after more then 5 years with the filter i start getting low flowrate 3-7 days after cleaning

    Thank you
    If you are using the older generation model ecco 2233 (the one with white media baskets and without the new pre-filter ring, not pro version), then the media placement according to flow from bottom to top would ideally be... blue coarse sponge pad > ceramic rings > biohomme > fine white filter wool pad.

    Low flow rates occurring soon after cleaning just means the media are getting clogged up again too quickly, either the filter isn't cleaned fully or the media are packed too tightly. You can try doing a more complete cleaning (including taking apart the impeller housing and parts to clean) and also try to reduce the amount of media so that there can be more freedom of flow. Rinse all the media in old tank water throughly to dislodge debris too.

    Also make sure you change out the white filter wool pad when it turns brown color, simply washing it doesn't help much as most of the fine particles will still be stuck inside it, hence it will just keep getting clogged up faster and faster each time. You have to change the entire file white filter wool pad with a brand new one, that is a regular wear and tear replacement item.
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Hi,UA.....I understand that when we do monthly servicing for our Eheim filters,we need to apply vaseline on the sealing ring?

    Can I use my wife's aloe vera flavoured baseline on the sealing rings of my 2236 and 2075?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    Hi,UA.....I understand that when we do monthly servicing for our Eheim filters,we need to apply vaseline on the sealing ring?

    Can I use my wife's aloe vera flavoured baseline on the sealing rings of my 2236 and 2075?
    So far i've only applied the Eheim brand silicone grease on my filter o-rings and seals... i guess vaseline could be used too (based on what other users post online), though it'll be best if you use the unscented/unflavored versions, in case the extra additives might affect aquarium livestock.

    For my filters, i usually only apply the grease once every 6 months or so though (even though i clean my filters every 2-3 months). I guess it depends on your filter's o-ring and seal condition and how regularly you maintain your filters.
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Ok,I understand the Eheim silicone grease comes in a canister spray form?

    Is it available widely locally at LFS who are authorised Eheim dealers?How much does it costs per canister?
    Last edited by RenesisTurbo; 29th Jun 2016 at 23:31.
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Seaview selling or other LFS. It is a very small package not spray form. Like lotion type. One small package cost 4bucks+.. if i am not wrong..
    Picture say thousand of words.


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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Yeah, i haven't seen the spray can version of the eheim silicone grease, i also only got the small packet version.

    Each time only a very tiny dot of grease is used to lube the seals and o-rings anyways, so the packet is usually enough to use for up to a dozen or so times on a filter.
    Last edited by Urban Aquaria; 30th Jun 2016 at 15:02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dscheng View Post
    Seaview selling or other LFS. It is a very small package not spray form. Like lotion type. One small package cost 4bucks+.. if i am not wrong..
    Picture say thousand of words.

    I got the above packet from Clementi Florist today...How and which part do I apply the grease?Do I put a bit on my finger and run it along the side of the powerheads?

    Is one pack enough for both my filters?
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    I got the above packet from Clementi Florist today...How and which part do I apply the grease?Do I put a bit on my finger and run it along the side of the powerheads?

    Is one pack enough for both my filters?
    Just use a tiny amount enough to provide a thin layer of grease on the main large seal ring and the small o-rings in the tap connections.

    No need to put gease on mechanical parts, only on the rubber seals and o-rings.
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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Aquaria View Post
    Just use a tiny amount enough to provide a thin layer of grease on the main large seal ring and the small o-rings in the tap connections.

    No need to put grease on mechanical parts, only on the rubber seals and o-rings.
    So can I put the grease on a piece of cotton bud and run it along the main large sealing ring and small o-rings in the tap connections?
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Sorry,forgot to ask if I can fit the Eheim power diffusor/installation set 2 on my Ecco Pro 300 to allow better aeration for my fishes?

    Thinking of fitting the power diffusor for my Pro 3 600 too.
    -50 assorted normal Platies, 12 assorted Corydoras, 30 Ember Tetras and 14 Kuhli Loaches in a 90 x 45 x 50 tank.(Eheim Ecco Pro 300)

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RenesisTurbo View Post
    So can I put the grease on a piece of cotton bud and run it along the main large sealing ring and small o-rings in the tap connections?
    Yes, it is what i do too. Apply on the large O ring or any rubber like the double tap small O ring.

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    Re: Eheim Canister Filter Comparison

    Recently, i broke the my ecco pro 3 handle connector part ( 7312628 ) as below diagram?
    Anyone know i should buy the whole set of the container with the handle or it came with separate parts?


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