Chiller for 1 ft tank

**richardks11** · 23rd May 2008, 11:30

Hi All Bro,

Need your advise and help for what brand and model of chiller to use for 1 ft tank. I am looking into breeding CRS at 1 ft tank. Also the power consumption of the chiller must not to too high la.

Any bros here can help.

Thank
Richard

**torque6** · 24th May 2008, 01:50

usually if you want to keep crs, the general recommendation is a 2FT for stability with a chiller. Theres is no ideal chiller for nano tanks. Most of us with 1ft are using fans.

**crusader** · 24th May 2008, 13:51

I think you can look at Resun CL85. But 1ft tank is kind of too small to maintain stability in the tank..

**Panut** · 24th May 2008, 14:12

If you have the money, go for teco micro

**torque6** · 24th May 2008, 15:20

richard,
We've discussed teco micro some time back, might want to have a read. It isnt a refigerate chiller by the way and works to lower water temperature to the same degree as a $5 dollars fan. But as recommended by crusader as well, 2FT tank with chiller =stability. I myself would upgrade than spending money on less than efficient chillers.

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**richardks11** · 25th May 2008, 01:25

hi All bros,
thank for that advies, but how about using TEM with fan for 1 Ft is it able to get t te temp of 25 degree C of breeding CRS.

Can any bro advise on this.

Thank
Richard

**torque6** · 25th May 2008, 03:18

If you are refering to the dolphin 788 or 789 and the iceprobe, it works to the same degree as fans. But like i have reiterated, crs -> 2FT with chiller. I dont think there is a way around it. May have to upgrade to avoid heat issues and stability later on.

However, if you are insistent, do check with the rest of us here to see who has successful breed crs with your similar setup. Mileage is different and "miracle" does happen.

**williamng** · 25th May 2008, 21:04

Bro

I am using a hailea chiller for my 1.5ft tank. Very good but like those bros mention, the temperature not very stable but still ok.

**wei** · 25th May 2008, 22:24

since you already have breeding crs in mind, why dont decide on a bigger tank such as 2ft and above. You have to take into consideration overcrowding (in a small 1ft tank), and also the less stable water parameters a small tank might bring about.

**torque6** · 26th May 2008, 01:07

One of those thing i dont quite approve is LFS displaying crs in their mini tanks, gives a rather false perspective on the stability of such tanks. Ive personally seen crs kept in the oceanfree 20x14x17 cm tanks. But thats strictly my own opinion.

**Aquaculture** · 26th May 2008, 17:12

Originally Posted by torque6

One of those thing i dont quite approve is LFS displaying crs in their mini tanks, gives a rather false perspective on the stability of such tanks. Ive personally seen crs kept in the oceanfree 20x14x17 cm tanks. But thats strictly my own opinion.

I super second torque's remark. They give the wrong impression especially to newbies. One would almost always forget that the turnover of fauna is high...

**illumnae** · 26th May 2008, 17:55

The onus is on the customer, even a newbie, to do sufficient research before committing to the purchase. You can't realistically expect every LFS to provide perfect, optimum conditions for every fauna that they carry. The conditions in the LFS are an indication of the type of risk they are willing to take (ie whether the cost saved outbalances the deaths they experience). If one is misled by the conditions that fauna are kept in LFS, it just means that one has not done the proper research to keep the fauna well.

However, if the LFS owner explicitly says that the conditions of the fauna are supposed to be the same conditions as they are kept in the LFS, then I agree with you that he/she is in the wrong :P

**torque6** · 27th May 2008, 17:54

Ya, got LFS told me no problem before which lead to my acquisition of a nano tank in Jan to keep shrimps. In the end all die.

I should have done more research, failure on my part.

**fugu_88** · 27th May 2008, 20:08

Small tank is ok, unless you monitor the condition more frequently.... And limit to a few shrimps....

I kept 3 shrimps in those fighting-fish's tank.

**richardks11** · 28th May 2008, 12:13

Hi All Bros,

Thank for all your advise.

I now monitoring the 1 ft tank without TEM and Fan the temp is about 30degree C. With Dolphine TEM788 running temp will drop to 28dgree C. Have not added in Fan and CRS, just want to monitor the temp can achieved before tHe CRS goes into tank la.

I did check with LFS at Y618, they recommend Artica 1/15Hp chiller or 1/10Hp to be used. But price is veri X. But the LFS tell me worth is cause Artica chiller have very low power consumption. Any bro using Artica chiller to commend, is it truth about this.

Tonight I will monitored the temp of the 1 ft tank with TEM to see can get to 27 Degree C or not. Then will added in 2 pcs of cooling fan to see tank tempm will be able to egt to 25/26 degree C. Update all bro next week, if can achieved.

Thank
Richard

**Panut** · 28th May 2008, 12:16

actually with regards to usage of fans it depends. If the ambience temperature is higher than usual(which it usually are nowadays), then your water temperature would also be higher, even with fan.

**torque6** · 28th May 2008, 17:35

Originally Posted by magic4lifez

actually with regards to usage of fans it depends. If the ambience temperature is higher than usual(which it usually are nowadays), then your water temperature would also be higher, even with fan.

Magic,
Actually, what i like about singapore's weather as compared to either australia or prc is the constant temperature. At most room temperature away from sunlight on any given day would be around 30 degrees. Which is why i recommended fan, as it cheaper option. From richard post on his 789 temp, its achieving the same result as me now. 26-28 degrees, but the only difference is im paying peanuts for utilities if compared to him.

Richard,
I dont believe Mr toh told you to buy the artica chiller lol. He would have advised appropriately. Anyways, agree with illumanae, "the onus is on the customer, even for a newbie."

**richardks11** · 30th May 2008, 12:02

Hi All Bros,

Thank for all your advise and comment.

I tested using Dolphine 788 *TEM) and the tank temp is able to go down from 29degree C to 26degree C. I guess this temp is suitable for CRS. I have monitor this setup for 2 days and temp is able to maintain at 26degreeC with TEM. Withthe TEM off the tank temp will goes back to 29degreeC.

Maybe want to get better cooler water, will just added 1 fan together with the TEM to get better result. I guess with Fan and TEM the temperature will be able to get as low as 24degreeC. Will update bros again after 2 days of testing and monitoring.

If this setup works, I will downsize my present setup to this tank, cause nowadays water and electrcity bills keep going up. Maybe this is a good way to cut costs.

Thank
Richard

**richardks11** · 1st Jun 2008, 22:46

Hi all Bros,

The 1 ft tank is stable with just using Boyu CY-20 and dolpine 788 TEM. Temp achieved is 25.5 to 26 degree C. I have 2 to 4 hino in the tank with some agale shrimp with some spiky moss and mini pellia in tank. CRS white no changes and survive very well. I guess the tank will be OK now, PH is about 6.4 and KH is about 2. Will monitor and update all bro if it is a successful.

Thank
Richard

**richardks11** · 6th Jun 2008, 13:35

Hi All Bros,

Updated on the outcome. All my grade A CRS is surviving in this new setup. New setup is Boyu CY-20 with dolphine 788 and able to cool water to 26degree C and all 10 pcs grade A CRS is surviving well.

Thank to al bros who have me on this issue.

Thank
Richard