When to remove Apistogramma fry?

[Zenislev]

Im just curious, normally when will you guys remove the juveniles from their mother apisto?

[thanantosis]

i didnt take the female out, just the male.

and now i can see my fries swimming with mother... i just fed them with decap eggs.

and at thio did say that its time to take them out, once the mum start chasing the babies around,

[Zenislev]

Ok, that should be the normal way. I'm trying to find out is there anyone out there that will remove the fries earlier than expected. Actually im intending to hatch eggs without the mum.

[thanantosis]

hmmm why do you want to hatch the egg without the mum?..

i feel that its better to hatch with the mum around...

when i see the bonding between fries and mum.... "priceless"

and real interesting...

[iwishweallcouldwin]

my previous two spawns of Ap. caca fries were raised parentless, and are now 5 mths old with zero casualties. but i only do that as a last resort when i realise that either mommy is spooked and has lost her yellow dressing or daddy's being mean and has started to snack on his own fries. if not, i would just remove the male. its really fun to see mommy herding and interacting with her fries everyday.

[Ram]

This is a timely thread, just notice my Ap. caca has raised a batch of fries today, will wondering whether the fries be safe with the female caca, which is still yellow in colour. Unfortunately the male caca just died few days ago. I will just leave the female around with the fries for the time being.

[Zenislev]

This is a timely thread, just notice my Ap. caca has raised a batch of fries today, will wondering whether the fries be safe with the female caca, which is still yellow in colour. Unfortunately the male caca just died few days ago. I will just leave the famale around with the fries for the time being.

No problem bro, the female caca will take good care of the fries.

[Ram]

You are right, observe that sometime the mother caca accidentally eaten the fry, but spits it out immediately and the fry still alive.

[iwishweallcouldwin]

think the mother was just transferring the fries to another place, not accidentally eating them. as long as mommy isn't startled too much, your fries will be in good hands!

[Ram]

think the mother was just transferring the fries to another place, not accidentally eating them. as long as mommy isn't startled too much, your fries will be in good hands!

Thanks for your point. I am still a newbie constantly worry for the safety of the fries.

[iwishweallcouldwin]

its really interesting to watch the interaction between parent and fries. i am a newbie who is still learning too... but as long as your female is still having her yellow dressing on, she should be fine as a mom! have fun raising your fries!

[celticfish]

ram,
that is a normal cichlid behaviour.
usually, as pointed out above, for moving.
also, to resusitate dying fry or newly hatched or wrigglers/fry that have wondered too far from the main brood.
think of it like a fish CPR.

[Ram]

You guys are really good at understanding the cichlid behaviour. I am still learning. The caca mom behaves like cat moving her kitten around with month; also like the hen bring her chicks out seaching for food. Very interesting behaviour indeed.
So you mean when the mom yellew colour disappear, I should move the mom to a separate tank?

[kr0nic]

Yes, you see mum cacs put on the really bright yellow coloration when breeding/raising fry. So if she suddenly loses her bright yellow coloration it could mean that she has been spooked and dosn't want to care for the current batch of fry anymore.