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Thread: Kenneth's ADA Scape "Biotope"

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    A close up

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    Natural Beauty... Nana petite on lily pipe inflow...


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    Another pair of apisto?

    I'm considering putting another pair of apisto inside this 1ft cube, maybe apistogramma bitaeniara? Hence, i added many stuff - Natural caves, hiding places, holes etc etc.

    Here is one of the many caves created from ADA Kurokinryu Stones, with a topping of Mini riccia



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    Added many other plants: Many meshes Of thickly grown US fissidens, Needle Leaf ferns, More Nana petite, Mini riccia, US fissidens on wood, christmas moss, Flame moss, etc etc. Will post more pictures later. My fishes are sleeping now!

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    2 pairs of apisto in a 1ft cube? better tink twice before commiting.. if you want 2 pair of apisto inside a tank. at least 3 - 4 ft then its still okay.. 1ft cube is simply way TOO small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionZ View Post
    2 pairs of apisto in a 1ft cube? better tink twice before commiting.. if you want 2 pair of apisto inside a tank. at least 3 - 4 ft then its still okay.. 1ft cube is simply way TOO small.
    I know that of course


    i wanted to try and challenge myself whether i can do it successfully. If they really can't get along, i will just separate and sell one of them. Simple.

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    challenge? well, nothing to say then. using live fish to do a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic4lifez View Post
    I know that of course
    Stick to your knowledge than... especially if you are already facing difficulty having 1 pair living peacefully inside that tank. Adding a second pair will not make the situation better.

    About the selling part... it doesn't sound like a good backup plan. I don't think you can easily get rid of (sell off) your second pair that easily.
    Last edited by Jervis; 6th Jul 2008 at 20:36. Reason: Decided to soften my approach :)

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    On the side note... I do understand the need for more excitement (aka challenge) as you are stuck with a 1ft cube. Why not "challenge" your dad to allow you to keep another 1ft cube? That will yield better result in the long term

    Explain to your dad... I'm sure he will understand

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    Looking good. Waiting for some photos of nice growth and clearer water.
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    you're crazy to even think of putting another pair of apistos in there. if you are tired of your money, flush it down the toilet. don't kill off fish just for a "challenge"

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    yx, well if they survive he can always try to sell it off again like he said.

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    Why put/use fish in such a scenario in the first place. I say stick to what you have without adding and additional pair. Keep the fish if you know you can, not if its going to be a "challenge" to make them get along. If the space isnt big enough for another pair then don't do it.
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    This is one thing I have learnt over my years of fish keeping.. In order for your fishes to life happily in a tank.. Do not try to overcrowd them in a small tank.. Bio-load must always be well maintained and ensure that it is not overloaded.. Last time I was just like you.. Not able to resist buying lots of nice fishes and put them into my tank.. Hoping they will survive.. But they never did of cause given the cramped conditions I can afford for them.. Haha thinking back.. Like what Bro Yi Xiang said.. I felt like those money are like flushed down the toilet bowl..

    Your tank is a small 1ft tank.. Already I see lots of fishes in them.. Even adding 2 more fishes will definitely stretch the bio-load to the max.. Your fishes will feel very cramped living in it.. Not to mention another pair of apisto which you view as challenge to see if you are able to comm them in such a small tiny space packed with lots of hiding spaces.. They will still fight for space and perhaps by the time you want to sell the other pair.. They might already been injured during fights.. Beware lots of apistos are lost during fights too.. Not just internal parasites like I mentioned before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel2618 View Post
    This is one thing I have learnt over my years of fish keeping.. In order for your fishes to life happily in a tank.. Do not try to overcrowd them in a small tank.. Bio-load must always be well maintained and ensure that it is not overloaded.. Last time I was just like you.. Not able to resist buying lots of nice fishes and put them into my tank.. Hoping they will survive.. But they never did of cause given the cramped conditions I can afford for them.. Haha thinking back.. Like what Bro Yi Xiang said.. I felt like those money are like flushed down the toilet bowl..

    Your tank is a small 1ft tank.. Already I see lots of fishes in them.. Even adding 2 more fishes will definitely stretch the bio-load to the max.. Your fishes will feel very cramped living in it.. Not to mention another pair of apisto which you view as challenge to see if you are able to comm them in such a small tiny space packed with lots of hiding spaces.. They will still fight for space and perhaps by the time you want to sell the other pair.. They might already been injured during fights.. Beware lots of apistos are lost during fights too.. Not just internal parasites like I mentioned before..

    Happy fish keeping!!
    Thank you samuel for your most constructive opinion, unlike others who just ->

    Just curious, do apisto have sharp teeth? how do they kill/injured each other during fights?

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    " Premaxilla has one long tooth row along rim of entire jaw with teeth in one hemiseries 17(1), 20(1), 23(1), 24(1) and one short inner row along anterior half of jaw rim. Dentary has one long tooth row with 20(1), 24 (1), 25(2) teeth in one hemiseries, and one inner series anteriorly (in male an additional short inner row anteriorly) All teeth unicuspid, pointed strongly curved linguad. "




    *information and pics adapted from zootaxa "Apistogramma eremnopyge, a new species of chichlid fish (Teleostei: Chichlidae) from Peru"
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    i do hope you don't get another pair of apisto and put both pair in a 1ft cube. i don't wish to see any beautiful and expensive apisto die in hands of people who have near zero knowledge on apistos.
    Last edited by EvolutionZ; 7th Jul 2008 at 14:26. Reason: correction.

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    As I am posting this, my 2 male cacas are fighting in my cube tank. Now will have to remove one and put in my new cube tank. As per what all other bros here advised, better not have 2 pairs in one cube tank.
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    Dwarf Cichlids are just like Betta who will fight the hell out of each other, ripping each other's fins off till mobility is difficult for the other party or injured the gills or other party of the body.. In a way.. They might just injured the other fish and leave it to perish when the other party is able to fight back anymore.. Please do more research on the website before trying to comm them.. But a definte answer now is please do not try to challenge yourself by trying to comm them in a small 1ft tank.. Seeing them swimming happily in a fish tank is a very enjoyable sight.. Fish not only need good food, expensive equipments.. But also need amber spaces to live happily..
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    Hi Kenneth,

    Let me add that apistos like any other cichlid have mating behaviour that borders on psychotic. Any similar looking fish would be consider a threat and thus need to be eliminated. It doesn't help when the tank is so small although you are providing more caves. Even if that is not bad enough, the female or male for some reason thinks their mate is useless would just kill the fella. So it's a good idea to keep watch. Having them of similar size although not always possible is better.

    That said, once they mate and produce fries, that's a beautiful thing.

    On a side note, I think guys who are commenting should temper their comments on the constructive side. I learnt something about apisto teeth today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionZ View Post
    i do hope you don't get another pair of apisto and put both pair in a 1ft cube. i don't wish to see any beautiful and expensive apisto die in hands of people who have zero knowledge on apistos.

    Evo, retract your statement.

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