You can get the miracle babies from LFS. Petmart has them. less than $10.

You can get the miracle babies from LFS. Petmart has them. less than $10.

Bro what type of gravel you using? I just setup a simple tank for my apisto fries using magicsoil and it clears up within a day. Some substrate takes longer to clear and like most of us here mention patience is the key to allow the tank to cycle.
You can still do minimum WC say around 10%-15% but make sure your is either aged or de-chlorinated.
WaterH2O
<Fish are Friends, not food>
Yes, 10-20% is a good margine to do a water change over this period.
As we said, its basically preference if you want to wait it out or buy bioloical aids.
Verminator![]()
Aquatic fanatic and keen learner of aquascaping
The canvas is what you make it...

Leave it to cycle,more patience,no worries since only 2 suckers they will survive.50% Wc before intro your other fishes.Good luck.![]()
Bros,
I am really vexed... ever since the last time i post this thread till today, i have been deligently, patiently, heed advises , do a Water Change every 3 days about 20% WC. the water did not turn clear...
I even bought the Ocean Free Green clear away and tried but it did not turn out as most bros mentioned in the forum, the water chear by the 3rd day...
I even switch on the light for less than 6hrs a day and till today which is about close to 3rd week, my water is so green that i almost can see the plants and the wood inside...
I really don't know what to do now!!!
Do i really have to buy the UV light?
Please advise on what I should do now...
Thanks
Last edited by Wackytpt; 10th Aug 2008 at 09:23. Reason: sms lingo
May not be feasable, but its worth a try.
Are you able to leave pales of water around somewhere inside for 2-3 days in advance of a water change. It may be chlorine in the water is speeding up algae growth, i don't know. Either way, try letting the water stand in a bucket/pale for 2-3 days in advance. Not good if your short on space, but it may reduce it over time.
I'm confused myself why your scenario seems as bad as you say it is after 3 weeks.
Verminator![]()
Aquatic fanatic and keen learner of aquascaping
The canvas is what you make it...
I have 2 pails of water overnight....
Guess what... i really am frustrated...
I am so soooooo angry about the water that i literally pour 25ml of the Ocean free green away solution into the tank in a fit of anger...
WAH !!!! it took effect almost instantenous!!! I can see the water clearing up... but i really felt sorry for my impusive as i don't know what will happen to my fish... I don't dare to off the pump and let it run overnight now...
will monitor and update...
Last edited by Wackytpt; 10th Aug 2008 at 09:24. Reason: sms lingo
You are way past the initial cycling stage. What you have now is green (algae) water due to too much light and too much nutrients in the water column. Since you have used chemical treatment, do a 50% change when the water clears, and then PLANT HEAVILY. Get a whole bunch of hornwort to start with. Don't worry about over planting. You can trim back later when the condition in your tank stabilise. Most green water problems can be solved this way even without adjustment to light and fertilisation regiment, and without UV too.
Hope this helps
/John

I think it's best that you could post a (fairly good) picture of your tank. It will probably help the other members to have a visual feel of your setup, and this may or may not provide some clues as to what the potential pitfalls are.
ok will try to take a picture and post it online by today..
Thanks for the help
Last edited by Wackytpt; 10th Aug 2008 at 09:26. Reason: sms lingo
Relax dude. Everyone goes through this phase, so you are not alone. Sometimes we tend to forget that we are dealing with Nature, and not always within our control. I like to see this hobby relaxing and fun, at the same time learn that the lifestocks - algae, bacterias, plants snails and fishes are part of the package, not something we can wield around effectively like a mechanical device. Also, if you don't feel like spending more money on bio products and UV lights there are other ways to go around it. It just take time.
Have a good weekend![]()
Bern still suck at Water Chemistry + Plant Names
Today the water is super clear... i am very happy.
Will continue to monitor the water for the next few days and try not to use chemicals.
By the way, i receive a PM from the mod and says something like infraction.
Can i know what is that?
I also realised that I am not allow to use abbreviation. I did not know that is so strict over here that "WC" which means water change is not allow here.
I understand "dun" and "wat" maybe inappropriate but what about "pic" which is picture? This is not allow too?
Just curious and hope the mod can advise so that in future i will be more careful.
By the way, what about typo error? Is this acceptable?
Thanks
Ofcourse typo errors are fine, if you spot them you can always correct them. I type to quick for myself at times and leave errors, some i correct some are too tedious to do so, haha.
Glad to see your water has cleared up, although i get the impression it was from an act of irrationality at the time. If it works fair play, but patience is a virtue![]()
Verminator![]()
Aquatic fanatic and keen learner of aquascaping
The canvas is what you make it...
Thanks bro,
But but but..... today morning, i realised that the water shows signs of greenish again.
I think is coming back soon...
Will defintely take a picture of it and post it tonight.
I believe by tonight sure can see some greenish color.
Thanks
Last edited by Wackytpt; 11th Aug 2008 at 09:58. Reason: spelling and sms lingo

Hi,
I believe this thread might serve as a gentle reminder to you.
Quote from one of our senior Moderator
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...21&postcount=6
Examples for your correction
Pics = Pictures
Overnite = Overnight
We seek your assistance in this.
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If still in doubt, feel free to pm me.
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Nicholas
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Bro instinctloh. i think your tank is still very fertile from the initial nutrients spike as it is a new tank, therefore you will have alot of greenwater issue. I use to have that issue to when i first started my low techtank, however i think changing water is not the solution for it.
you get green water from initial nutrients spike, the algea are there cos there are enuff nutrients and light for them to trives, my suggestion is to leave the greenwater alone and let them absorb up the nutrients for a week or 2. get some woodshrimp which would love the greenwater or even daphania which would thrive in greenwater. they would help clean up the greenwater once your tank is stabalise.

Bro A picture tells a thousand words it may help in analysing the situtation.
WaterH2O
<Fish are Friends, not food>

OK.. I am a noob too but I think overplanting is the best course. If you have CO2, ramp it up. And plant lots and lots of stem plants which can absorb the nutirents. I did not get green water but I had a whole tank of hair, thread and BBA algae. That did the trick. Splitting up the light time also helps. I used 4hrs on/ 4hrs off/4hrs on to limit the algae growth. Took me a couple of weeks, but the algae soon reduced to acceptable levels (can't get rid of every thing.. but hey, my shrimps and SAEs need to eat)
Try to addess the cause of the problems. Algae growth tends to come from excess nutrients and excess light. Control both, and let the algae reduce on its own. It cannot happen overnight. So don't expect it to clear in an hour. But once the causes are addressed, maintaining should be easier.
Timothy
aka Newbie
I had a similar problem with one of my tank previously. The tank was near the window and one fine day when i came home, the side of the tank which faces the window is full of algae, water also cloudly. Maybe sunlight is the problem, i then use something to block the sunlight, that solves most of the problems. i also reduce the amount of time i turn on the lights cause in anycase i don have much plants in this tank (all died in the first 4 months, so i gave up).. now the water is crystal clear and has been good for the last 3 months... didnt even do water change at all, only wash the filter sponge.
Is your tank near sunlight?
Just my 2cents.![]()
-LM-
Newbie in this exciting hobby
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