Shrimps Identity & Value

[simontay78]

Hi all

I'm a beginner shrimp breeder and happened to mixed all my shrimps into a single tank previously and now having a tough time identifying all of them and imagine my horror when I realized I had sold some "cherry" shrimps but in fact they are more expensive types sakura...

How to identify them? Hmmm

here's a close up of my shrimps

Can anyone identify my shrimps?

Thanks!

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

the red shrimp is a cherry shrimp, you can see from the body that it is not really covered in full red. for the green shrimp i am not too sure about it.

[simontay78]

Hey thanks for the quick reply!

What about those fully covered by red color leh? I have plenty of those...are those sakura?

[seanskye]

My goodness are those darker ones wild cherries? Red is a recessive gene and later populations will lose their red colours if those are wild cherries... better separate them!

[simontay78]

HOLY Shucks! Wild Cherry?? My god! tonight major project is to separate them!

[simontay78]

I got another photo for you expert to look to see if they are really wild cherries!

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

the transparent looking shrimp in ur 2nd photo is cherry, the redder shrimp below is sakura.

[simontay78]

the transparent looking shrimp in ur 2nd photo is cherry, the redder shrimp below is sakura.

OHHH NOOO I think I sold many sakuras at cherry prices! omg!

what is the current sakuras prices online?

[seanskye]

HOLY Shucks! Wild Cherry?? My god! tonight major project is to separate them!

haha... I may be wrong, but I think sakura + wild cherry = red cherry, red cherry + wild cherry = wild cherry... may not happen in one generation but you'll start to see your tank turning brown

anyway sakuras are usually fully covered in red. They have different grading too...

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

sakura selling in market place is about $1 per piece

[Crystal Red Shrimp]

some people say sakura is the redder form of cherry or selective breed of cherry so sakura+wild cherry= wild cherry or cherry

[cheetf]

OHHH NOOO I think I sold many sakuras at cherry prices! omg!

It's called paying school fees.

[hwchoy]

since there are no clear definition of what a cherry, sakura, etc is, you really cannot make any definitive judgement other than to simply separate them by visual traits such as colour saturation, patterns, stripes etc.

"wild cherry" is also a highly hilarious term. "wild" would certain mean the specimen in question are obtained from the… wild! and since almost all shrimps in the hobby at this point are quite certainly bred by hobbyists this would certainly not be the case.

as to the assertion that over time cherry shrimps will lose the redness, I am inclined to believe this isn't so. unlike crystal red whereby the red colour is a result of line breeding, cherries coming out of Hong Kong in the early days of the hobby seem to be already red as they are, meaning the red colour is their natural coloration.

[hwchoy]

just to put some perspective into all these naming and identification frenzy, there are something like 130+ species of Caridina and Neocaridina shrimps in southeast China where most of the shrimps in the hobby originates. most of them look pretty much the same until you dissect them under a microscope. even something as "obvious" as a tiger stripe, is a common pattern to several different species.

[simontay78]

ok, I had separated the shrimps into RED shrimps only tank hehe not sure if they are all sakura or normal cherry shrimps LOL




Are they Cherry or Sakura shrimps?

[zoothefreak]

the brighter reds might be fire shrimps? the one at the bottom right of the picture is definitely a cherry...

[hann]

The 2nd picture that is somehow enlarged are all cherry. Sakura does not have any transparent spots or lines on its body. They should be full red.

[Radiance]

Where did you bought them from?
Didn't the fish shop label them when you first bought the shrimp? It would be hard to guess which is which by now....

[globalcookie]

Seems to be all red cherries to me. Sakura is very red, thus those you shown are not red enough to me.

[simontay78]

WOW YOUR cherry shrimp LOOK RED BRO...

Ohhhh Yeah...they are super red now...almost like fire red! Muhahaa I guess they love the tank environment I had specially created for them hehe