Sakura Vs Cherry

[Yany]

I just bought some Sakura shrimp and they look similar to cherries. I can see its slightly bigger and redder but other than that, cannot see other difference.

Can anyone enlighten me if they are the same family and will they cross breed?

[AlexHcp]

Yes, they are basically from the same family, and will cross breed. Sakura I'd basically a redder version of cherries...

[Jovel]

Yea they are from the same family and will cross breed.

[Yany]

I thought so... .LOL. Here I am thinking I have different species.....

[Shi Xuan]

"Sakura" is a redder version of cherry shrimp, which is a selectively bred red variant of the original wild Neocaridina heteropoda, found in the streams of taiwan. When cherry shrimps were first brought into Singapore several years ago, they were marketed with the name "Taiwan cherry shrimps" but nowadays they dropped the idea. You can also see orange, yellow & even koi colored Neocaridina heteropoda nowadays too. They are simply selectively bred varieties of cherry shrimps. If the LFS you bought them are more specific, they might label it as Neocaridina heteropoda var. "Red" or "Sakura".

If you mix sakura with the common red cherry shrimps, you might still have red cherries, maybe not as red as the original sakura though. If you are interested in dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps. They are all beautiful & easy to breed. Good luck with them.

regards,
Shi Xuan

[theludicrous]

are neon green shrimps the same family as malaya shrimps?

[Yany]

"Sakura" is a redder version of cherry shrimp, which is a selectively bred red variant of the original wild Neocaridina heteropoda, found in the streams of taiwan. When cherry shrimps were first brought into Singapore several years ago, they were marketed with the name "Taiwan cherry shrimps" but nowadays they dropped the idea. You can also see orange, yellow & even koi colored Neocaridina heteropoda nowadays too. They are simply selectively bred varieties of cherry shrimps. If the LFS you bought them are more specific, they might label it as Neocaridina heteropoda var. "Red" or "Sakura".

If you mix sakura with the common red cherry shrimps, you might still have red cherries, maybe not as red as the original sakura though. If you are interested in dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps. They are all beautiful & easy to breed. Good luck with them.

regards,
Shi Xuan

Thanks so much for your explanation Shi Xuan. I even saw some labeled purple red today. The colour is quite dark and not as striking as sakuras. I wanted to add some colour to my 3ft planted tank and the sakura really does stand out.

[Asgard]

This is one of my Red Cherry Shrimp (actually the prettiest of them), selective breeding will produce some of these gems.
Ferrari red and no see through spots, can be qualified as 'sakura'.

[Shi Xuan]

theludicrous,

Yes, they share the same Caridina genus, so they are likely to cross breed if kept with the indian neon green shrimp.

[theludicrous]

thanks shi xuan, and sorry to yany if i hijacked. i just got excited someone knew quite a fair bit with the dwarf shrimps.

[Yany]

LOL... no worries the ludicrous. As always, its always good to share whilst still on topic. Great looking cherry by the way. Some sakura doesn't even look that nice!

[kermit13sg]

"Sakura" is a redder version of cherry shrimp, which is a selectively bred red variant of the original wild Neocaridina heteropoda, found in the streams of taiwan. When cherry shrimps were first brought into Singapore several years ago, they were marketed with the name "Taiwan cherry shrimps" but nowadays they dropped the idea. You can also see orange, yellow & even koi colored Neocaridina heteropoda nowadays too. They are simply selectively bred varieties of cherry shrimps. If the LFS you bought them are more specific, they might label it as Neocaridina heteropoda var. "Red" or "Sakura".

If you mix sakura with the common red cherry shrimps, you might still have red cherries, maybe not as red as the original sakura though. If you are interested in dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps. They are all beautiful & easy to breed. Good luck with them.

regards,
Shi Xuan

Sorry Yany, taking a ride on this thread too.

Shi Xuan, where can we get these dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps? Are they as hardy as cherry are ??

thanks

[eviltrain]

"Sakura" is a redder version of cherry shrimp, which is a selectively bred red variant of the original wild Neocaridina heteropoda, found in the streams of taiwan. When cherry shrimps were first brought into Singapore several years ago, they were marketed with the name "Taiwan cherry shrimps" but nowadays they dropped the idea. You can also see orange, yellow & even koi colored Neocaridina heteropoda nowadays too. They are simply selectively bred varieties of cherry shrimps. If the LFS you bought them are more specific, they might label it as Neocaridina heteropoda var. "Red" or "Sakura".

If you mix sakura with the common red cherry shrimps, you might still have red cherries, maybe not as red as the original sakura though. If you are interested in dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps. They are all beautiful & easy to breed. Good luck with them.

regards,
Shi Xuan

hee hee,

tigers are not Neocaridina sp., it belongs to Caridina cantonensis sp. Tiger

snow ball and blue pearl belong to Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis sp. white or blue

neon green shrimps belongs to Caridina cf. babaulti spp. 'green' sorry but i have to point that out.

[theludicrous]

according to planetinverts, the green shrimps are caridina sp, same as malaya. they do say that the babaulti are different. so what are the babaulti species like?

[eviltrain]

hee hee, i rather prefer getting my information from shrimpnow.com, more detailed and accurate.

and thats why alot of people have problem with fanciful trade names for the shrimps

[Shi Xuan]

Hi Eviltrain,

Thank you for elaborating more on the genus of these dwarf shrimps. It's been quite a while since I last kept them. Shrimpnow has the most accurate information of these shrimps, so it would be wise to read up on them. As for blue shrimps, I've heard, there's a variant of Neocaridina zhangjianensis but there's another type, which might be a completely different species by itself. Read here;

http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/221-blue-shrimp
True enough, shrimp identifications can be quite perplex at times when it's difficult to notice the difference because of the fanciful names & they are mislabeled quite often.

Here's a thread on shrimpnow forum of the difference between Caridina & Neocaridina genus;
http://www.shrimpnow.com/forums/show...caridina-genus

regards,
Shi Xuan

[Shi Xuan]

Sorry Yany, taking a ride on this thread too.

Shi Xuan, where can we get these dwarf shrimps, (Neocaridina sp.), try others as well, tigers, snowball, blue & neon green shrimps? Are they as hardy as cherry are ??

thanks

From my past experience, Neon green shrimps & snowball shrimps are as hardy & prolific as cherry shrimps. I don't know much about blue shrimps because I can't be exactly sure of it's identity, so I never keep them. It could be a variety of the malayan shrimp but I can't tell at best. I don't have much luck with tiger shrimps, probably because they couldn't tolerate the high temperature, as I keep shrimps at room temperature as my guppies back then, except they are kept in a tank all by themselves.

As far as I know, Green Chapter have them & are quite well identified. The shopmaster is good too, he knows his stuffs very well.

with regards,
Shi Xuan

[Shi Xuan]

hee hee,

tigers are not Neocaridina sp., it belongs to Caridina cantonensis sp. Tiger

snow ball and blue pearl belong to Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis sp. white or blue

neon green shrimps belongs to Caridina cf. babaulti spp. 'green' sorry but i have to point that out.

Sorry Eviltrain, I didn't read your post carefully before I post earlier on. I don't mean (Neocaridina sp.) as a species which include Neon green shrimps, tiger shrimps, snowball & blue shrimps. I'm referring to the genus as a whole (Neocaridina/Caridina). I should have made myself clearer in the post by specifying the respective species names so that I won't mislead others.

Btw, dwarf shrimp species encompass Neocarina & Caridina species only. Nothing else.

[eviltrain]

Sorry Eviltrain, I didn't read your post carefully before I post earlier on. I don't mean (Neocaridina sp.) as a species which include Neon green shrimps, tiger shrimps, snowball & blue shrimps. I'm referring to the genus as a whole (Neocaridina/Caridina). I should have made myself clearer in the post by specifying the respective species names so that I won't mislead others.

Btw, dwarf shrimp species encompass Neocarina & Caridina species only. Nothing else.

no problem la. we are all here to learn from one another. Strangly, alot still like to call they with fanciful names. but these fancy name will tend to confuse newbies as they will thinks that they are totally different shrimp.

[Yany]

I wanted to share my mama sakura.. The red coloration is so nice...
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Thank you all the bros for the detailed explanation. Now, itching to add some blue ones Do you suppose I will get purple ones if they cross breed? heeheehee