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[jackychun]

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Hey Jacky in case you missed this product, the drip bucket will ease the process of drop acclamation process. Less then $8 for the small one. Got one myself last week. Beats running to the tank to drip now and then. .

Oh. Thanks bro! I didn't know about this product. How does it work?

[jackychun]

Platinum Rummy Nose Tetra have been introduced to their new home. They looked so pale and cannot see any rummy head.



After an hour, it seems like they calm down and look much better.



I wonder how to feed this fish? Can I just drop the food from above or need to put in the tray? It seems like they like the tank bottom level for now. May be they will get better after few days.


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[scouserganisen]

Looking great bro

[jackychun]

Looking great bro

Thanks bro!

[exo]

Oh. Thanks bro! I didn't know about this product. How does it work?

I'll take a pic for you in awhile. .

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[jackychun]

Hi All,

I would need your advice on how to train the fishes to eat pellets.

I bought a box of New Life Spectrum Thera A+ Small Fish Formula and tried to feed them today.



I noticed the fishes tried to catch and ate on the sinking pellets but seems they were not get use to it and many pellets just dropped on the carpet grass.

Can you please share your training tips? Some says just leave them starve and they will eventually eat. Is that true?




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[Urban Aquaria]

I feed my fishes with the same food too. The way i do it is i crush the pellets into even smaller bits beforehand (using a flat head pincette in a small measuring cap) until almost like powder, then i sprinkle the bits on the water surface. The smaller bits take a longer time to sink and are much easier to eat, so the fishes can grab most of them before they disappear into the plants. Just feed small amounts at a time to avoid too much food getting missed.

After a while you'll know how much to feed and the fishes will learn the feeding routine, they will eagerly swarm to the food and gobble it quickly. If you see food getting missed, then feed less. Those fishes need very little food, your 120g can will probably still be 3/4 full at expiry.

[jackychun]

I feed my fishes with the same food too. The way i do it is i crush the pellets to even smaller bits (using a flat head pincette in a small measuring cap) until almost like powder, then i sprinkle the bits on the water surface. The smaller bits take a longer time to sink and are easier to eat, so the fishes can grab most of them before they disappear into the plants. Just feed small amounts at a time to avoid too much food getting missed.

After a while you'll know how much to feed and the fishes will learn the routine, they will eagerly swarm to the food quickly. If you see food getting missed, then feed less.

Sifu UA, I asked you the other day on the fish food that you use then follow accordingly. I will try to grind it and sprinkle on water surface to see how the fish react. So far, they are quite stressed I guess, they look pale and just stay at one corner of the tank. Only if they see the sinking pellet then they come and take. The floating pellets they don't bother. I don't know if they will get to the surface and eat eventually.

I bought a floating feeder as well, may I just put all the ground pellets there and wait if they recognize it?

By the way, with the carpet grass like this, should I be able to have Corydoras? I really love them! And they can consume the food that sunk on the bottom of the tank, too.

[exo]

I'll take a pic for you in awhile. .

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The groove at the bottom will sit at the corner of your tank while dripping into your new bag of livestock which is also held in place at the same time.

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[Urban Aquaria]

Sifu UA, I asked you the other day on the fish food that you use then follow accordingly. I will try to grind it and sprinkle on water surface to see how the fish react. So far, they are quite stressed I guess, they look pale and just stay at one corner of the tank. Only if they see the sinking pellet then they come and take. The floating pellets they don't bother. I don't know if they will get to the surface and eat eventually.

I bought a floating feeder as well, may I just put all the ground pellets there and wait if they recognize it?

By the way, with the carpet grass like this, should I be able to have Corydoras? I really love them! And they can consume the food that sunk on the bottom of the tank, too.

A floating feeder could help, its worth a try. Just switch off the filter for 1-2 minutes during feeding time so that the food particles don't scatter all over the tank.

You could also use a feeding tube and dish too, there are acrylic sets available usually sold for shrimp tanks. Those make feeding easier and helps keep all the food in one spot, at least until the fishes start to mess it up.

As for corydoras, they wouldn't be able to sift around the substrate if its mostly covered in carpet plants, so they can't really help in cleaning up food under the carpet plants. In planted setups, usually its the small shrimps which do that job... and its mainly the shrimplets that are still small enough to crawl into the hairgrass and scavenge for food there (the adult shrimps are often too large to access in too). So if you want a substrate clean up crew, its better to have a colony of cherry shrimps that breed and produce shrimplets. The carpet will keep the shrimplets safe from the fishes, and in turn they will help you clean up excess food bits.

[jackychun]

The groove at the bottom will sit at the corner of your tank while dripping into your new bag of livestock which is also held in place at the same time.

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Thanks a lot bro! This bucket surely save the effort to do acclimation dripping when introduce new stock to the tank. May I know where did you buy it from?

[jackychun]

A floating feeder could help, its worth a try. Just switch off the filter for 1-2 minutes during feeding time so that the food particles don't scatter all over the tank.

You could also use a feeding tube and dish too, there are acrylic sets available usually sold for shrimp tanks. Those make feeding easier and helps keep all the food in one spot, at least until the fishes start to mess it up.

As for corydoras, they wouldn't be able to sift around the substrate if its mostly covered in carpet plants, so they can't really help in cleaning up food under the carpet plants. In planted setups, usually its the small shrimps which do that job... and its mainly the shrimplets that are still small enough to crawl into the hairgrass and scavenge for food there (the adult shrimps are often too large to access in too). So if you want a substrate clean up crew, its better to have a colony of cherry shrimps that breed and produce shrimplets. The carpet will keep the shrimplets safe from the fishes, and in turn they will help you clean up excess food bits.

Thanks UA!!! It works!!!

This morning I have tried the feeding method that you mentioned and the Rummy Nose fishes really have a good meal.

I turned off the filter, ground the pellets to very fine particles and put it inside the compound of float feeding tray. The particles slowly sunken down the tank and I needed to chase the fishes to the food area so that they would know where the food was. Once they saw it, they quickly come and happily eat it all. Really happy to see they chasing for food!

Thanks for the tips once again UA! I have a feeding tube and disc too. I will try it later tonight. For the disc how do you use that when feeding? Or just use the tube?

As for Corydoras, what a pity cannot have them. Is Fire Red Shrimps working the same as Cherry Shrimps? I will have more shrimps this weekend to strengthen the cleaning force! So much fun! Yay!

[exo]

Thanks a lot bro! This bucket surely save the effort to do acclimation dripping when introduce new stock to the tank. May I know where did you buy it from?

C328 florist.. NA or Seaview should have it as well... Now that you have a pic... will be easier to ask if they have it

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[jackychun]

C328 florist.. NA or Seaview should have it as well... Now that you have a pic... will be easier to ask if they have it

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Yup. Thank you very much!

[Urban Aquaria]

Thanks for the tips once again UA! I have a feeding tube and disc too. I will try it later tonight. For the disc how do you use that when feeding? Or just use the tube?

The acrylic dish and tube should be used together, just drop the food into the tube and it will settle into the dish.

Btw, do check the acrylic feeding tube occasionally as otos and some curious fishes can sometimes swim into it and get trapped (they can't turn around to swim back out), so you will need help them get out of the tube.

As for Corydoras, what a pity cannot have them. Is Fire Red Shrimps working the same as Cherry Shrimps? I will have more shrimps this weekend to strengthen the cleaning force! So much fun! Yay!

You can still keep corydoras fishes, just that in a planted tank filled with carpet plants you wouldn't be able to see them do their characteristic sifting through the sand behaviour.

Cherry shrimps is just a "catch all" name for neocaridina shrimps, of which fire reds are a higher grade red color variant.

Usually cherry grade shrimps are much cheaper so people like to buy those in bulk as algae clean up crew, but they are mostly transparent or with very little color... you could also buy alot of fire red grade shrimps to do the same jobs too, it will just be alot more costly, but their colors are much nicer.

[jackychun]

Thanks for your advice, UA! I like the Fire Red colour and might get more for the cleaning crew. Is the Crystal Red Shrimps (the one have red and white colour) are also the same style? That one so cute too!

For the acrylic tube, I find the edge quite sharp as the cutting is quite rough. So I might not put in the tank all the time, but only feeding time.

I will plan to get some Corydoras as well. Hope they will enjoy the plants as the sand.


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[freezze]

You can try my feeding method.. usually before i feed the fishes.. i will tap on the glass for a few time then feed them.. after repeating this method before feeding time. They seem to know that when i tap the glass equal food is serve. They will swarm to the surface to wait for any food that i drop in.

[Urban Aquaria]

Is the Crystal Red Shrimps (the one have red and white colour) are also the same style? That one so cute too!

Well, crystal red shrimp (aka CRS, caridina species) are suitable for planted tanks too, though they do tend to be more sensitive to varying water parameters (compared to cherry shrimps), so you'll need to monitor your tank conditions more closely.

In addition, CRS generally fare much better in cooler water conditions (ie. 24-25°C), hence most CRS keepers use chillers to maintain the necessary lower water temperature. You can still keep them in normal room temperature tanks though, just that their lifespan may be shorter and their breeding and shrimplet survival rates tend to be alot lower too.

[jackychun]

Well, crystal red shrimp (aka CRS, caridina species) are suitable for planted tanks too, though they do tend to be more sensitive to varying water parameters (compared to cherry shrimps), so you'll need to monitor your tank conditions more closely.

In addition, CRS generally fare much better in cooler water conditions (ie. 24-25°C), hence most CRS keepers use chillers to maintain the necessary lower water temperature. You can still keep them in normal room temperature tanks though, just that their lifespan may be shorter and their breeding and shrimplet survival rates tend to be alot lower too.

Thanks UA. That mean they are more sensitive then the Cherry Shrimps. I think I would stick to the Cherry Shrimps then.

[jackychun]

You can try my feeding method.. usually before i feed the fishes.. i will tap on the glass for a few time then feed them.. after repeating this method before feeding time. They seem to know that when i tap the glass equal food is serve. They will swarm to the surface to wait for any food that i drop in.

That is a good tip, freezze. I will try to see how. But my rummy nose are very sensitive, i knock on the glass, they run for their lives already.